φαρμακεία is pharmakia and translated withcraft in the new testament. Pharmakia means drugs and booze. I’ll often hear a man call it “self medicating.” This includes drinking and weed
tell us about this Neil Steven Lawrence Steve Losee
Can it get you high ?
If yes its a sin to take it.
If no its alright to take it.
I love cannabis. It has been a blessing for me and others I know.
CBD cannot get you high. Come on people? it’s FAR more dangerous to take medicines prescribed by doctors. It’s actually safer to be taking oils with thc than dangerous opioids. This is why God created that leaf. For medicinal purposes.
There’s a big difference between using something for medical purposes with a doctor’s consent and advise. And abusing something. We as humans tend to justify our abuse of these things. And I’m speaking mostly from my own experience
For all those who think it is a sin or that a Christian shouldn’t use it, be consistent and say that no Christian should take any medicine at all whatsoever.
Hayden Ariaz could you point us to a respected medical study that confirmed CBD as safe medicine Thank you!
What is cbd?
I read the article. But it lacks sources and credibility to boot. The article does nothing to distinguish between the chemical compounds and physoactive difference between CBD and THC. All the article does is talk about the word pharmakia in the Greek. I’m not arguing against what the scripture says. I’m not even arguing against the paganism and demonology associated with certain drugs. And for certain drugs do open up the spirit world. I know because I smoked wees for years. And now I wont have anything to do with it because it alters your mind. CBD does not. Just like tylenol does not. And by the way, the Pharmacy logo itself is rooted in paganism and witchcraft. But if you have cancer, or a stomach ache, or toothache, you still for to the doctor. And you still take medications.
pls tell us more Damien Lacks
Addiction (note the .gov source)
There is no approved pharmacological therapy for the treatment of disorders related to the use of cannabis today
However, new questions appeared regarding the properties of CBD and its synthetic analogs that are currently under investigation, such as the safety and precise dose ranges for each disorder. Therefore, more controlled clinical trials with different and larger neuropsychiatric populations should bring important answers in the near future and support the translation of research findings to clinical settings.
We should use all of the letters of the alphabet, whenever and wherever appropriate.
If it is a drug prescribed by a dr for medical purpose yeah. When I was having a heart attack they have me heroin …. !!! And trust me I wasn’t going to say no!
If the answer is no then there are a lot of drugs to add to the list.
CBD against Federal Law, so we are law breaking even if state law approves.
It is an addictive depressant, like too much Wine. Like alcohol, Paul warns against controlled by alcohol, but instead be filled with the Holy Spirit who will never lead a Christian toward drug use unless under advice with medical doctor.
CBD oil is proven medically to work extremely well in many different instances. Medical grade CBD oil has the properties that make you high removed. So saying it’s a depressive addictive drug is totally wrong. Morphine is also illegal to use recreationally, but medically is invaluable for people in severe pain.
It’s your choice
It’s legal in my country and doesn’t make you goofed, so why not.
The thing I suggest to keep in mind is this 1) does it harm the body? The Bible says that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit so we should honor God with our bodies by keeping it healthy.
2) We should be sober minded as it says in 1 Peter 5: 8.
Basically, as long as it doesn’t harm the body and it doesn’t make you intoxicated then it should be alright.
But a question to the author of the article, if I take an aspirin for a headache am I participating in witchcraft? Since aspirin is a pharmaceutical. And I take a “black label ” prescription drug for my psoriatic arthritis which can have negative side effects, is that witchcraft too?
CBD is new and untested as vape chems .
We do not know much about it. 50 years later, men grew beasts and suffered brain damage from pot smoke. What verified side affects? Is it just making a buck off Christian’s for profit, or it is for actually helping people by verified methods?
When my primary care MD, approves, then let’s discuss. Until then, it is just fun shock talk.
There are cbd oils without the THC which causes the “high” which is legal in some states.
Ima tell ya Robert Cox church folk just wanna get high
It’s a fair bet that some people in here will smoke tobacco and drink beer/wine or whiskey and be ok with that, yet be up in arms over cbd
Stewart MacLeod No its NOT fair bet to bet either I dont believe that what you said is a Biblical standard drinking smoking etc I also dont believe drugs like CBD should be used by Christian without doctor orders and that for a limited time lest serious addiction occurs And pls lets not argue CBD is not addictive if you HAVE to use it daily as a must No serious study has yet denied the addictive effect Actually since its treated with addicts we know its one addiction replacing the other So come on with the sweet talk CBD is a drug of its own and you take it you on drugs Neil Steven Lawrence Larry Dale Steele
?♀️ I have no problem with it
Dear admins and moderators. Please dont put Max Gooche out of the group , despite that was he intent coming in and making this post. Max Gooche most of us here are adults that do real research and make educated decisions on what we do and use because we love the Lord. This is an apologetic group and we will love you regardless of the accusations you make that are without merit. We can understand you have a personal vendetta. But we are here to help and bring you truth. Those are major characteristics within most of us. That is why we are in this group
Damien Lacks here is the FULL quote with some from Neil Steven Lawrence that you could post as an actual Christian Apologetic provided the solid Biblical exegesis in it
φαρμακεία is pharmakia and translated withcraft in the new testament. Pharmakia means drugs and booze. I’ll often hear a man call it “self medicating.” This includes drinking and weed and dope. Things like this altar a man’s personality. Clouds his judgment, corrupts the morals of a man and pulls down his will.
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,…”
— Galatians 5:19,20
Pharmakia is used again in Revelations
“Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
— Revelation 9:12
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
— Revelation 21:8
They are just physical substances but they open up the Spirit world. Especially methamphetamine. It’s interesting that the Greek word Pharmakei means “sorcerywitchcraft” is translated drugs in English. This is where we get pharmacy, pharmacist. Etc
What about Pharmekeia?
This Greek word is interesting. As noted, it is used for medicine, drugs, or spells. The purpose of many drugs used for depression is to put you under a spell or alter your thinking. They is what they are designed to do. In some cases, this is needed. However, most times it is actually going against the purpose of God for the person.
The word is used twice. Once in Galatians and once in Revelation.
In Galatians 5:19-21 we see the first use. It is related to the use of witchcraft. Paul was very careful to make sure it knew it was related to many other issues of the heart.
The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
In the midst of sexual immorality, drunkeness, hatred, selfishness and envy is pharmekeia. You can read this as “The acts of the flesh are obvious…. fornication, getting drunks, taking medicines, doing drugs….” Anything that alters the mind is of the evil one. It is the work of the flesh and inspired by the evil one.
Revelation 18:23 takes it a whole new level. While Paul said that using mind altering drugs were of the flesh, John the Revelator takes to the spiritual realm of angels and demons. Let’s take a look.
The light of a lamp will never shine in you again, Nor will the joyous laughter of a wedding be heard in you. Your merchants were once the tycoons of the world, But you deceived all the nations by your sorcery.
The reality is that the companies that make meds and illegal drugs are tycoons. They have made billions off giving people addictions. They have deceived people all the world by their usage of pharmekeia. The enemy, Satan, is inspiring people to profit off people’s addictions and it is deception and witchcraft.
You should never purchase oil’s that have Pagan or Satanic mumbo-jumbo mixed in their advertising mainly as a testimony and to not support their evil efforts. But just like with music we should never allow the devil to hijack what the Lord has created. In Africa the medicine-man (Herbalist) is one of the more harmless of what might begin to be termed witchcraft. In my opinion the line should be drawn when you start invoking spirits or the names of ancestors, etc. in the same way with essential oil‘s the names that they are given may determine whether you should use them or not. People who practice paganism, magic, witchcraft and Satanism use herbs and drugs to weaken them and alter their state of consciousness so as to be more susceptible to the spirit world. The Bible forbids us from doing this.
Hayden Ariaz Damien Lacks yall are simply failing your own false arguments by your own circular logic so far And none of yall can produce a respectable medical study to prove any of your claims
I am also noticing that you have not referred the BIBLE once just yet Which to me in an apologetic discussion as this one shows a lot
I definitely support the use of CBD. Former potheat (before getting saved). I am no long pro pot as the thc alters the state of mind and scripture tells us to be sober minded. I suffer from migraines and degenerative disk disease. I use cbd as a way to manage symptoms.
Why not? Doesn’t make you high, does wonders for backaches.
Should Christians use medication?
I STILL dont get Christians who wanna get high
OK Hayden Ariaz you being the self proclaimed CBD experts PLS explain the following
CBD has psychoactive effects too. But whether you call CBD’s effects a high or not, vaping it or using CBD oil makes you feel different. There are noticeable sensations that many users find as pleasant as those provided by THC. Unlike THC products though, using pure (or nearly pure) CBD will not make you fail a drug test—as long as you’re careful to choose the right kinds of CBD products.
specifically – CBD has psychoactive effects too AND as long as you’re careful to choose the right kinds of CBD
Larry Dale Steele I am never amused how many church folk wanna get hogh on CBD before breakfast
ok and again Hayden Ariaz
Both CBD and THC have an impact on the cannabinoid type 1 receptors (CB1) in your brain, but they kinda have opposite effects. THC binds with those receptors, activating them and causing a feeling of euphoria or high.
But CBD is different: It barely binds with CB1 receptors. In fact, it can actually block any high from happening at all. If you were to take CBD with THC, you might find that you didn’t feel as high as you would if you’d consumed only THC.
EXPLAIN how is that high NOT high? It is NOT the other type of high but is still high Explain this to the group pls
keep on explaining Hayden Ariaz and pls dont waste everyones time with explaining around
There are countless CBD gummies and tinctures that are marketed specifically for anxiety relief, and people anecdotally claim that cannabidiol, a compound found in cannabis and hemp, helps promote relaxation and calmness.
While it’s entirely possible for trace amounts of THC to be left over in CBD products
the World Health Organization (WHO) defines any substance that affects mental processes, such as cognition, as “psychoactive.” By this definition, CBD could be considered psychoactive
It started as a whisper at the fringes of medical science, amplified over the years by a swelling chorus of cannabis activists, patients, and their advocates. Then the media began shouting that it doesn’t get people high. And, before we knew it, CBD popped up in drugstores and suburban kitchen cabinets. Now the cannabinoid is infused into everything from hummus to underarm deodorant.
But some suspect this alleged wonder drug — which offers the plant’s medicinal benefits and none of its stoney side effects — can, indeed, get them a little buzzed. #BOOM Hayden Ariaz
Like Russo, Marcu noted that the current body of scientific literature shows CBD can affect a THC high, and not just for tapering anxiety caused by too much THC. For instance, when taken orally, CBD can slow THC’s progression through the blood and brain, leading to longer-lasting highs.
How does CBD do this? The liver contains several enzymes that break down roughly 60 percent of all drugs known to humanity. CBD can prevent these same enzymes from breaking down delta-9-THC when someone smokes weed. #MhM
Max Gooche, experience beats ideas hands down. I use cbd and do not get high.”, trust me when I say I know what high is. You seem to be obsessed with proving everyone wrong, why is this. Do you see cbd or cannabis use, when prescribed for health reasons, as wrong or sinful?
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