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I’ve studied the scriptures for the better part of the last 16 years, not for my own knowledge, but because I knew my loved ones needed to know some things and I wanted to take on the responsibility of making sure they learned what they needed to know. I am now 46.

What I learned is that I was lost. Then one evening September 2011 as I was driving down a back country highway alone, in prayer because I knew I was lost and without hope, condemned because I am a sinner, I trusted in the Lord Christ Jesus as my Savior.

In my 46 years, I’ve learned many doctrines which seem Christian in nature, some true and some false.

But how do you determine the truthfulness of a doctrine?

For example…
Acts 16:31, And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

The well-established doctrine teaches using this verse that the moment someone trusts in Christ as their Savior, that Christ saves them that moment.

But this verse makes no such declaration. It only shows that “thou shalt be saved”, in other words, salvation will come to pass. It doesn’t say when.

Someone might argue…
Ephesians 1:13, In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

…that the sealing which takes place after someone trusts in Christ equates to salvation.

But is that true?

Paul writes to the saved Colossians…
Colossians 3:1, If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Colossians 3:2, Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

Colossians 3:3, For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

The life we live in the flesh is not hidden. We can see it and so can others. Therefore, the LIFE of a saved man isn’t seen in this life, but hidden.

Colossians 3 states that this life is dead.

With that being said, if we backtrack to Acts 16:31…
Acts 16:31, And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
And follow with…
Acts 16:32, And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

We can read that verse 31 isn’t “the word of the Lord” that Paul preached. He didn’t preach it until verse 32.

That being said, since verse 31 isn’t the promise of God regarding salvation as being “the word of the Lord”, then the word of the Lord would have to have another promise of salvation, one that isn’t written in Acts 16, but in another account of a sermon by Paul.

Would you like to talk about it?

Discussion

14 comments

  1. Ian Hartley says:

    Acts 8:36-38 KJV. After Philip preached Jesus to him using Isaiah the Eunuch asks what hinders me to be Baptized? He then confesses Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is Baptized (believers baptism). If he died the next instant, would he be saved? I believe he would be. The Thief on the Cross, God determines when a person is saved and under what circumstances. At that instant they become a child of God!

  2. Hildon Val Budtan says:

    Well bro, what I believed is before the foundation of the world. GOD Elected it. Predestination.

  3. Joe A Smith says:

    ACTS 16 doesn’t say what you think it says

  4. Harold Goldman says:

    Your reading to much into it. Think of the word rescue you were drowning and someone rescued you that’s an immediate action right? The bible is all about Jesus not us it’s his story about rescuing people

  5. Gina Alston says:

    Yes, this is the beginning of rightly dividing the Word of TRUTH. Start with the right gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and you can build on that. Good post! ? Paul is the apostle whom Jesus sent directly for the gentiles. Romans through Philemon are our instructions!

  6. Peni Biukoto says:

    The journey of salvation is hidden in the story of exodus (Exodus 1 – Deuteronomy 34) and the story of creation (Genesis 1:2-2:3). Through Jesus Christ, creation of earth and man become your creation, and exodus of Israel become your exodus.

  7. Fred Galvez says:

    The correct interpreters of scripture probably belongs to that church which compiled the books of such scriptures and declared which books were the proper ones to include. Within the Canon of The Bible around the year 280. Let us remember that scripture itself tells us that the pillar and foundation of truth is the church not The Bible. Chances are for the best Understanding of scripture look to that church that Jesus had given the keys of the Kingdom to. I would think that would be obvious? All churches have seen failings of its members at times. But I think it’s amazing that despite those failings one church has continued. using the name Catholic since shortly after Jesus death and resurrection + Much illuminations on the matter of the church is obtained through reading the writings of the early church presbyters known as the church fathers who lived during the 1st 2 centuries after Jesus death when the church was forming and establishing its roots

  8. Jeff Finster says:

    How long from Abraham’s call until the perfection of his faith? Who began that good work in him and how? Who brought the good work in him to a successful completion? What was the result? Abraham is the father of faith. Justification by faith is clearly perceived in his walk with God. Our walk is the same. Nothing has changed in that regard. Will walk a few miles with you if you are willing.

  9. Ralph Edwards II says:

    2 Corinthians 5:17

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  11. Trey Hudson says:

    I believe god presents salvation to the whole world , but scripture points that the road to follow Christ is narrow & only comes through self denial & leaning on Jesus in your suffering and not every person in the whole world does that. I think a person can be saved in a moments time but they’re actions following salvation would determine if they were truly saved. Most American churches like to push emotion & feelings rather than doctrine & truth so people think because they prayed a prayer & got baptized when they were 10 they are saved for eternity but nothing they did after that truly proved they had the Holy Spirit & the power of Christ. A quote I love to use is “every day you’re either moving closer or farther away from Christ & if you’re truly saved, every day shouldn’t you be gravitating closer?” That doesn’t mean we don’t still fall short of the glory of god but we’re not who we used to be before truly being saved. I wrestled with this thought for a long time & still pursuing Christ & praying I learn more & more every single day.

  12. Zack Brown says:

    “But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.”
    ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:13‬ ‭NASB‬‬

    “So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure. Do all things without grumbling or disputing; so that you will prove yourselves to be blameless and innocent, children of God above reproach in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you appear as lights in the world,”
    ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:12-15‬ ‭NASB‬‬

  13. Margaret Stevens says:

    Congrats on diving deep. Makes me wonder if god has something for you in ministry

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