I heard a lady from TBN and said that the KJV BIBLE came from a wicked king. What’s your take on that?
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We are all wicked even those whom the Bible points to as examples. Example of how faith works even though we are sinners still even with faith.
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God used a donkey once, guess he could use wicked people
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I laugh. ?
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I’d tell her so what? Is she going to be like jehovahs witnesses and declare that celebrating birthdays is unholy because the Bible only makes mention of a pharoah and herrod celebrating their birthdays despite the fact scripture doesn’t hint that celebrating birthdays is a pagan act just because they celebrated their birthdays?
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My opinion , TBN went down hill
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Whoever is that lady I saw in TBN is so mad that this wicked King James called Jesus a carpenter. It should be a stone Mason according to her.
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King James was a known homosexual, that’s probably what she was referring to.
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The King James Bible stands on a firm and strong historical foundation from Wycliffe to Tyndaleand. The Great Bible and the Bishops Bible and the Geneva Bible of the pilgrims. Modern English translations use corrupted Sinacticus and Vaticanus and the corrupt Gort Westcott new testament text and are therefore corrupted. Don’t believe the lie that these are older manuscripts – they are not!
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The king authorized the people to translate the scriptures in about 1604. they asked for multiple changes in the king rejected them all but permitted them to translate the Bible.
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I’d probably stop watching TBNSecond:
The King James Version is safe to useThird:
What an outrageous claim -
There were certain omissions and slight word changes that King James wanted in an effort to better control the Church. As a result there are a few minor differences. But honestly most of them are almost undetectable. People only know the second part of the story. We all know about the Mayflower and how the first American colonies came to be. But we never here about why they left in the first place. In short, the omissions and subtle word changes that King James wanted are not even noticeable as the things he was opposed too actually became part of American culture. Even the meaning of certain words change over time. Not only that, but the Strongs concordance was written with the KJV in mind. It labeled every word in the KJV and placed it with a corresponding number that leads to to the original language and the definition of the words in the original language. So while King James did have some rather sinister motives that lead to the KJV Bible, God was able to keep his message pretty well intact. There is nothing wrong with a KJV. I would steer clear of people who are KJV ONLY but reading a KJV is fine.
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There is a reason why it is the most printed book in the world and still has 55% of Bible readership. The NIV is a distant second with 17% single digits for all the rest and there are many. NASB,RSV, ESV, NKJV, REB, NRSV, plus Dhouay Rhiems Catholic Bible NLT NEB The Message Moffat, and so many more I like comparing passages from one translation to another which helps me justify having 137 Bibles.
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King James didn’t translate it, it was a political move. God is bigger then any king and uses them for His purposes.
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Tj Hahn:
I find the Geneva Bible which preceded the KJV by 50+ years, to be a very good Bible.
The KJV after all is based upon the readings in the English bibles translated into English prior to it.Note this article:
How Much of the King James Bible Is William Tyndale’s?
Based on 18 sampled passages from those portions of the Bible that Tyndale translated, we conclude that for the New Testament Tyndale’s contribution is about 84 per cent of the text, while in the Old Testament about 76 per cent of his words have been retained.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/ref_1998_3_1_004
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85% of the language is Tyndale.
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King James persecuted Christians. Shakespeare helped to publish the 1611 as a political ploy. Many also say king James was gay but we can’t prove that. But yes he was wicked.
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I have the Book of Common Prayer with Geneva Bible Psalms very nice.
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His mother is a direct ancestor of mine
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TBN. Twisted Bible Network
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TBN means what?
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I believe no matter the variations of Bible versions we have out there it never changes the core messages of God’s word. Sin, redemption, love, repentance, judgement etc. Let’s read scriptures to get the main themes and inputs God wants to tell us. My little contribution
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She ought to try reading it
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Before the KJV came about in 1611, the printing of the Bible was pretty much in Latin. As this was law imposed by the catholic church. Tyndall was the first to translate it into English in the 1500s, but since England was under a catholic monarch at the time, he was burned at the stake for doing so. Then King James came to the throne and England went back to being protestant and he authorized an English version of the Bible. To my understanding, King James did not do anything in regards to the translation except to authorize it, as it were the scholars who did the work. It only bares his name because he gave permission for it to be done.
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Yes, he was. So what should we do
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What king wasn’t wicked?
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We are all wicked
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TBN is not worth watching… LOL
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We are all sinners, in a lying world of preachers for prophet stick to your bible its the only Truth
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It doesn’t matter if the king was wicked. If the translation is correct. There weren’t many righteous kings in the Bible, yet God fulfilled His will through them.
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I do not permit women to teach
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Correction: It was translated during the reign of a wicked king. We need to be careful to define wicked as well, because we all are wicked in one way or another. That is why we must have the blood of Christ applied to our account to be saved. We all fall short.
Now I will agree, King James was morally dubious – probably more so than most people of the time.
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As far as theology is concern and the spread of the gospel of Jesus, I respect King James, although commissioned by King James, it was transalted by puritans. So that, common english people can read the Bible in their own language without interference from Roman Catholic Church. KJV 1611 shaped our Christian theology before the arrival of New Translations. What really matter is we must go back to Greek Manuscript of New Testament and Textual Variants to avoid quenching the faith of common believers around the globe.
As Daniele Wallace said, we have the original text of New Testament in different varriants.
Its helpful to read, edward andrews 400,000 errors of the Greek New Testament Manuscript and Revisiting the Curroption of New Testament by Daniele Wallace. -
I just have to ask this in the nicest way that I can, why is anybody in this group watching TBN? I call TBN, The Blasphemy Network!
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I am not discrediting the King James Version; but have you studied the history of King James for who it is named?
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she works for the RCC
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If Jimmy really had anything to do with it beyond authorizing it, she might be right.
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That king was used by God. Good DVD to watch.
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I believe he was a homosexual, but he was still used by God.
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king james hated the puritans
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I think God brought good out of the situation, for more distribution of His Word in English – BUT it’s not the best translation!!!
The idolization of King James and his translation is really crazy.
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Do you believe that the Bible is God’s Word? God chooses who ever He wants to do His will. We r all sinners.
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Don’t watch TBN ?
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The Bible came from God through the Holy Spirit in the hearts of godly men
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God and His Word is profitable for doctrine for correction for instruction in righteousness. The KJV is the best available version and confirms that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. The moral condition of King James has zero to do with the Word of God.
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Jesus Christ’s death came from wicked men.
Does God not use the work of wicked men to save wicked men?
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