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I had a challenging yet brief encounter with an atheist that I want to share. He noticed my shirt. To be honest, I almost lost my patience in the end. Thoughts please.
“I see you’re a Christian, well I have a question for you”

“Ok, go head”

“Why believe in an evil divine dictator who murders innocent people committing genocide as the Bible clearly says & commands us to worship him or else we go to hell to be burnt forever. You call that fair & loving. Plus look at all the evil in the world, so he’s not good. What do you say?”

“Well, so much I can say, but I can clearly see that you’re relying on your own understanding as from Proverbs 3:5 of who God is and putting that on to the God presented in this book in order to attack him like that. what you just described there is definitely not the God I worship. When I read this book I see something completely different in fact the very opposite.”

“How so?”

“ I see a perfectly holy and righteous God who in the face of our hateful rebellion against him decides to offer us the invitation to be right with him In a trusting intimate relationship with him. He gave us his very best in Jesus Christ who chose to take on the debt we owed so that we could live forever with Him. He lovingly told us the consequences of the decision we make so that we are without excuse. None of us are in control of the choices we have, but we’re in control of what we choose”

“Do you have any idea the terrible things have been done in the name of religion of your God & Jesus Christ?”

“Do you know how many terrible things have been done in the name of just about everything, such as, every form of religion, equality, freedom, peace, & atheism? As far as I see it, it’s not religion that’s bad, it’s bad people who abuse it as we see so plainly in the world.”

“So, do you approve of God sending innocent people to hell just for not believing in Him?”

“I would say your asking the wrong question. Rather, how could a perfectly Holy & righteous God bring guilty sinners into Heaven unless He justifies them fairly? Which in fact He has done in Jesus Christ. We’re limited & finite, & He’s eternal & omniscient so what right do any of us have to say He’s unfair? Also, those in Hell are there fairly.” Then I asked “why are you an atheist?”

“Because I started thinking for myself & I am a free thinker & it’s a splendid freedom. What could you have possibly gained from being a Christian consider that you’re listening to how someone else demands you to think, & not for yourself? It’s really pathetic.”

Got a little agitated from that for a few seconds, Then I said “I have gained something greater than atheism could never offer.”

“What’s that?” As he looked surprised

“Freedom, Hope, joy, fulfillment, & purpose that can’t be explained by human reasoning nor experienced without the Holy Spirit in you. At least that’s the way I would put it along with historical evidence. Btw, what would take you to believe this book.”

“More Evidence”

“That’s actually not the case.”

“Excuse me”. As he lean forward a little

“What you need is an open mind to the evidence already there. I’ve learned from Lee Strobel & J. Warner Wallace who were atheists at first & they were reasonable”.

“Well, a loving God wouldn’t allow all this evil in the world.”

“A loving god in your image wouldn’t, besides, if you’re not appealing to an objective moral standard above Mankind then what’s good & evil is just your opinion. So, you have no right to me that I’m wrong in what I believe in.”

Then he finished off with this “so, just a straight yes or no. You do believe in virgin birth, that the sun stood still, feeding five thousand people, & about this coming kingdom with streets of gold?”

“My short answer Yes…”

He interrupted “I rest my case. Such wishful thinking. You refuse to get in line with reality. What a pity”

I felt really down at this point, but replied “you had a philosophical bias against this before coming to me.”

then he got up & said “good day sir”

Discussion

16 comments

  1. E Ru Ma says:

    People like those are just heartbreaking. They don’t understand the sovereignty of God.
    It’s not that they don’t believe that there is God, they just cant accept the way He is.

  2. Moon River says:

    Satan has lmg been preparing for his effort to deceive the world. The foundation of his work was laid by the assurance given to Eve in Eden:” Ye shall not surely die.” ” In the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Gen.3:4,5

  3. Brandon Gibson says:

    As soon as they said they are “a free thinker” I would’ve shown them how the arguments and attacks they’d put forth up until that point have been posed by millions of people already, and that I’m almost positive they’d developed them because they heard or read them, too. So no, they are not a free thinker.

    Honestly, I would’ve bypassed understanding of God and intellect altogether and told them discussion is pointless with someone who is hostile and unWILLing to believe. Just by making the attack, which is what they did by initiating something and trying to dismantle your beliefs, they’re showing they aren’t open-minded nor willing to believe. So a discussion on it is futile. Jesus said not to throw our pearls before swine because they’d devour them then turn and rend us. Sometimes “debate” with an unbeliever is to be avoided.

    They’re entire motive for engaging you wasn’t to learn anything, but to destroy your faith.

  4. Jim Grosso says:

    There are no atheists. He is playing hide and seek with God. Just like Adam and Eve. He is trying out his hiding spot on you.

  5. Ernie Chartier says:

    You did great. Never got trapped by his accusations, but rather presented gospel truth. Maybe one day, he will open his ears to God’s calling. You were faithful…spoke the truth in love.

  6. Kubowaki Julia says:

    Congratulations Jeff, you handle it very well

  7. Charles Lee Knuckles says:

    Well done, stay strong in the Lord

  8. Daniel Marvin says:

    You presented truth and a rationale for the hope that lies within you — well done! Often, we can do more than plant a seed in their thinking.. identifying pre-existing bias was a solid move.

  9. Jim Lee says:

    I think you handled it well, But he does have some legitimate objections. For one thing, we should refrain from saying or agreeing on the condemnation of any one. I don’t think it is wimpy to say “All I know is that God is just, but He is also loving and merciful, and He will do the right thing.” I would also try to communicate that God does not rejoice in the evil that people do…He hates it more than we do. But He has given us free will, which delays but does not cancel the fact that He will someday make everything right..

  10. Natalie Gauerke-Shaffer says:

    It’s difficult and very sad to deal with a puffed up, proud, & self deluded individual. I think your answers were excellent. They are trying to get you to be convinced to change your belief by using a peer pressure technique of who is smart and who is not. Which they already gave in to. They excuse themselves when they can’t overcome your courage to be comfortable with being different. They secombed to peer pressure and you did not.

  11. Stacy Hutchinson says:

    Great job, sir!!!

  12. Ian Grant Spong says:

    You done good, or did well, if you prefer good grammar! 🙂

  13. John Chappel says:

    Great convo..

  14. Pam Morgan says:

    I think you did a great job in defending the faith and reasoning with this atheist. You planted a seed of doubt in this person’s mind. You were a loyal defender of Christ. Remember, all we can do is plant the seed. Perhaps others will water, and if God so chooses, it is He that will make it grow. God bless you for your courage in trying to defend and promote our Lord and Savior.

  15. Ava Reyes says:

    Amazing how you were able to remember that entire conversation word for word.

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