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This is anything BUT an Israel initiative. It is support for the Palestinians!
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And you came by this information how?
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Diligent observation
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What proof?
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300 K recently given to Palestinians and Arabs
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someone show us financial support for even one Jew let alone the nation of Israel!
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I believe the facts are:
(1). About One million per year is utilized only 4 ministry among the Jews and relocating Jews to Israel each year. There is also a program that feeds the hungry, helps Israeli soldiers and helps the needy in other areas around Jerusalem. It is called MINISTRY to Israel.Then, a new church is now being planted for Jewish believer’s as a result of the recent Israel Initiative. Also, the COG pays the cost for a children’s camping and schooling program for a Jewish organization. Yes the COG does help Palestinians also but isn’t it the goal of World Missions to carry the gospel to ALL nations and ALL people. Are the souls of Palestinians not as valuable to Christ as the souls of muslin Arab nations in Africa that the COG puts money into as well. At some point we have to put our trust in God and pray diligently for our leadership in the COG. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Many ministries have tapped into this groundswell of support. They’ve learned that if they highlight end-time Bible prophecy or anything related to Israel, people seem to rally more than they do for other pressing issues, such as the sanctity of life or traditional marriage—or even righteous living, for that matter. Other ministries have sprung up to take advantage of this newfound interest in the six decades since Israel became a state. As a result, an estimated $210 million a year flows into Israel-related ministries.
Charisma Magazine
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So the article simply states a area of ministry that people are drawn too. It doesn’t appear to site any wrongdoing or deceit. Your insinuating that the COG has tapped into this in order to build their pockets instead of helping the people of Israel.
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Not sure if you are aware. But I’m sure you are. If there is any misappropriation of funds the IRS will eventually catch up. I choose to put my faith and finances in God’s hands. I deeply trust the information I have on our missions initiative to Israel.
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IRS don’t investigate denominational funds if anything the state department would investigate the use of funds to support Palestinian Terrorism. There is a link of Hamas to many of our Palestianian missions. If not actual support there is sympathetic support of our missionaries. -
I wonder where The Republic of South Sudan falls in COG Mission Programs??! the recent fight in Juba left thousands dead! many COG members and children in great pain and suffering. WE NEED YOUR PRAYERS!!…COG in Juba, South Sudan.
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Many of our malnourished children in church were given milk as part of the emergency assistance!…The number of Orphans and widows have multiplied because fo the two serious wars of 2013 and 2016!..LET COG WM Cleveland not forget South Sudan in their prayers! for PEACE !
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We appreciate what COG is doing in other parts of the world including Israel or Palestine in terms of Humanitarian needs.. God Bless COGWM Leaders in Cleveland USA for their love!..Pray for us in South Sudan. Church growth is being hindered by the civil war in South Sudan!..
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Enock Muktar, Are you in a position to tell us how much the COG in South Sudan has receive from COGWM?
I am not sure that money given to World Missions for Sudan would actually go to South Sudan. They can furnish a country designation number but that don’t mean in fact the COG will get it in South Sudan.
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Sorry, we don’t even know if COGWM have Sudan or South Sudan in its list of churches at the Headquarters in Cleveland!..Some 8 year ago South Sudanese Christians in USA made some contribution to support the present Juba COG with building materials. 3-4 years later Man of God Pastor Harold Bare Covenant church Had the heart as an individual to directly support some of the church activities including emergency relief for our war victims..BUT NOTHING FROM COGWM and we don’t blame them. Perhaps we were not known yet or well represented..But thank God for the creation of COG FORUM! now we are beginning to build good relationship and love one another and have brothers and sisters who care! halleluyah!
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I’ll have to say I duchess the Bible on the Church of God forum. I don’t get mad when we disagree. I just give Scripture on what i believe. Sometimes we agree , sometimes we don’t. Isn’t that what this what Bible discussion is all about. Someone might have a point I never thought of. Sometimes I might have one that they never thought of. As far as money goes I don’t get in on that discussion because I know nothing about it. I let people that knows take care of that. Even if every word you said was true. Does that give you reason to tell them they have hate in their heart. Isn’t that something The Lord should judge. Shouldn’t you pray for them. It seemed you had a wrong spirit. Let’s say even if every word you said was true. It seems you started out from the beginning to have it in for him. There was a better way to go about all that. A humble Sprit. Decussing this problem. Other than judging. There is always a right way to go about things. Even if you think it isn’t true. Now I can’t take sides on money. Because I know nothing about it. I think it would be good to think things over. And be friends. It seem to me that someone had a wrong spirit even if you were correct. I couldn’t say if you were right about money or not. But it seemes you started out from the beginning. If I’m wrong you and the Lord forgive me. Because I love the Church Of God. The Lord led me there when I was real young. I also want to defend my Church. And love my Church. I never had problems with any pastor. Love them. Never had problems with any overseers. Bro T L Lowery pray for me about twenty three years ago. And The Lord Healed me uterus cancer. It was already number four , the worst it gets. God healed me. Thank God I’m still healed. Don’t think I’m putting distrust in you. I’ve never meat you. What I’m trying to say is instead of adding trouble to trouble. Let’s be friends. And let each other discuss. If you disagree. Just say I disagree and then tell your side with love. Time is short. We need to do all we can to get the lost saved.
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For those of you that have not paid attention. This video is from August 2014. Here is the caption under the video on YouTube.
Published on Aug 7, 2014Church of God World Missions unveiled a new initiative at the 75th General Assembly in Orlando, FL. The first step, the ISRAEL Initiative, is already underway. General Director Tim Hill gives an amazing report, in this short video, of the response to the initiative and what is already being done.
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There is a more updated video from Tim Hill on COG website. Done right after GA this year.
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I’m sorry I didn’t know it was an older conversion. I thought it was going on yesterday. I love Bro. Tim Hill. My granddaughter spent the night with his daughter when he was general overseer before. That was when his son- in- law was pastoring near my church. My granddaughter was close friends with Bro Tim Hill daughter. When they went home to see their father and mother. My granddaughter would go with them sometimes. I love those people. I also love all the Church Of God Forum people , even tho I’ve never met any of them. You get to feeling like they are family you never met. Altho we may not agree on every point. And my statement is different than theirs. I still just wait sometimes and let it all work out. Because I believe they are all good people. I’m sorry if I took Hingis wrong. I ask your forgiveness. I hope I’m writing to the right person I was talking about last night. Because it takes me a while to remember names. If I’m writing to the wrong person you probley won’t know what I’m talking about. I just didn’t want anyone’s feelings hurt. I want us all to be friends. Thank you for letting me know that was an old conversation. I guess I didn’t see the video. I’ve seen some things but I just leave it to them to know what they are talking about.
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Louise Cummings the conversation is new. He just started the conversation. However he is using a video from 2 years ago to slander the COG today. Making people think this is something new that Tim Hill said. All he has to do is upload the newer video from Tim Hill.
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Thank you. I didn’t know.
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It’s ok. Many on here didn’t as well.
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pls let us know!
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