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A while ago, me and my friend were discussing about…

A while ago, me and my friend were discussing about abortion. As a christian I am not for it for that is against God’s Law. However in his defense, he is all for abortion because of 2 premises:
1.) Suffering
2.) Kids that do not want or did not consented to be alive… (??? HM?? ???? ? not mocking him or anything, I just don’t understand how he came to it)

The only thing that have defended well is, although I haven’t delved into it more, is the problem of suffering. I told him that we all face problems, sufferings, burdens, regrets, and families that left their offsprings or kids running away from home because of bad parents. He suggested that the suffering should end by death except there are more productive alternatives than that. The sufferer’s suffering is not justifiable for us to end it, however instead of the individual dying with the suffering, the productive notion would be to take it off or have the person live with the pain. The point is, there are immensely beautiful things in life outside of there suffering and it would be more inspiring when those kids that suffered in life earlier will speak of their incredible testimonies on how they survived the cruel reality of their bad conditions. Another argument is, what if the parent of that orphan or vice versa end up seeing each other later on. As much as I wanted to say that falls on the person whether by guilty consent or by rape that they regret it and it haunts them, it is more productive to raise the orphans, whether they become successful or at least doing well in life, will definitely put that biological parent at ease and will be less enraptured on their guilt or what ever psychological tension they have. As far as rape is concerned, the rapist should be put to death as it is stated in the Bible. Although I don’t agree to birth control, but if we have it, why do we need abortion? Even vasectomy can be an option but it takes away the natural use of the reproductive organs. However, people fail, which makes Proverbs 6:22 a necessity for our future generation. Finally, we came to an agreement in which that we as a people (and not just the government) must do something to make abortion unecessary or we can forget about doing it since we have means (such as counseling, reviewing our orphanage systems, and strict protocols for adoption) for not doing it.

P.S. this a long read….. sorry ?

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  1. Larry Koester says:

    Immorality can and often been justified on “moral” grounds. At that point either there is something wrong with the arguement or the whole idea of morality is wrong. What is there to replace it with. Is wrong/wrong a flawed idea. That’s where current thinking is leading.

  2. Anna Dekan says:

    The sanctity of life is not ours to take away.
    2 Timothy 4:3
    For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

  3. Jerry Spencer says:

    1 Samuel 15:2-3
    2 “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did in opposing the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

  4. Ayuba Danjuma says:

    Why do we start to think that death is human solution to suffering,we simply can’t live in the face of suffering , people today believe that it’s better to die than to go through life with suffering,that is why abortion,suicide, euthanasia,gun welding young goons will shoot anyone at sights in schools and wherever they,when we begin to think think we can take life becouse of suffering,then we will not value how sacred life is,we can take it without feeling remorse.

  5. James Clark says:

    so as someone with a disability myself, if my parents chose to abort me as I was born with this disability, it would have ben ok for me to suffer for a few minutes or hours instead of giving my life a chance? see that’s what the abortion advocates don’t think about, oh it’s humane, yeah but does the fetus still feel pain… what about the rights of the child? sorry but if a fetus can feel pain and its got a heartbeet its a child, not a clump of cells. that’s what I would tell your buddy. and I would also point this out, suffering is because of our rebellion against God. not that he causes suffering but that we get ourselves into suffering. you know I am glad my parents didn’t abort me, because I can use my blindness as a witness for God’s glory. ever think of that? a disability can actually be useful. suffering is contextual, what I mean ifis this, so many people say blindness is hard or that it’s unimaginable, so then they equate it with suffering. how do they know, they’ve never ben blind. even those who lose their sight I am told yes it’s hard, but we adapt. again suffering is contextualised based on someone’s idea who’s never ben there to begin with but they asume that well your life must stink as a blind person, but they’ve never ben there. I say if a mother is raped or something, give that baby a chance, if the baby has disabilities, give that little one a chance, you never know what the little one may grow into, you never know what impact that little one may make, oh but then again, you could just never find out and never give that little one a chance. I don’t know about you, but I would rather give that little one a chance at life.

  6. Anh Tran says:

    Just very simple: When God says No, it means NO. No matter what you think!!!

  7. Martha Thompson says:

    According to that thinking anyone who suffers should be killed, along with anyone who doesn’t want to live.

  8. Carl Martin says:

    Murder, its murder..

  9. David Barnes says:

    Either you obey God or your His enemy. Abortion is always murder, a sin, and a separation from God.

  10. Ian Tan says:

    I know what number 2 feels like. When you’re born a certain helpless way. Or when injustice comes into your puny life. You’ll wish you were never born.

    The opposite would be true. The aborted child could be one holding the key to cure cancer. Or trash problem we could never ever solve.

    Let teach kids to be overcomers.

  11. Doreen Heintschel says:

    I was a victim of horrendous child abuse, I’m glad I wasnt aborted. I am a strong woman of faith now. I have suffered after becoming a Christian and I am thankful for my suffering because it has brought me closer to God. The only true victim and person who has truly suffered was Christ. All of our suffering is a result of our sin. Christ was sinless and suffered more than we could ever withstand to bring us to himself.

  12. Duncan Macpherson says:

    The end does not justify the means. It is never right to directly kill an innocent human being.

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