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6 years ago • March 2, 2021 • by ourCOG

Hey everyone, I’m new to this group, I’m not too educated on the bible in terms of scripture and the historical intricacies and so forth, I’m slowly learning as I go along. Currently I’m a heavy agnostic with leanings towards christianity.

Recently I’ve been confused with an idea that I had pop into my head recently and was just hoping to gain some insight from those more bible savy than myself.
Soo here it is:

when people pray, let’s say in this instance, when a person who comes to christ, confesses their fallen nature and short falling, some christians report that afterwards or even during they experience a euphoric sensation of “calmness” or “peaceful” presence come over them, or some kind of spiritual realising/event that takes place in their lives, or I guess that being the response from Jesus entering their lives.

My confusion is that what about people of other faiths who report that they experience the same series of events, the sensations they have when praying to their god?

If Christianity is the true faith, then in theory shouldn’t those feelings only be felt or witnessed by christians? Or are the people who practice other faiths experiencing a form of spiritual deception of some sort?

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  1. Gerardo Kosonoy says:
    May 13, 2020 at 12:53 am

    “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
    ‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭17:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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  2. G Wetz Elberger says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:06 am

    From a health and wellness perspective, prayer is simply a form of meditation that calms the sympathetic nervous system and, in turn, releases hormones like dopamine and serotonin. That benefit is not mutually exclusive to Christians.
    From a biblical perspective, God does not maintain a condition with regard to whom He chooses to bless. His presence can be felt in the lives of Christians, agnostics, atheists, Muslims and more. He is sovereign over all creation and works all things for His glory. Now, how that translates to salvation is another conversation.

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  3. Joey Spillane says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:11 am

    Feelings are not exclusive to any group and they are not proof or evidence of anything. Truth and feelings are not related and satan can certainly deceive people through feelings. Gerardo nailed it.

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  4. Ralph T. A. Ranger says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:13 am

    Welcome to the group. Thanks for the honest question. I’ll do my best to give you an honest answer. And sum up 2000 years of history in one Facebook post ?

    First and foremost the only thing that really matters in Christianity is the Deity, Death, and Resurrection (to quote Dr. Habermas). Everything outside this core belief which is found in 1 Corinthians 15:3-5 is not directly tied to salvation. After these three areas is where you will see denominational doctrine begin to divide followers of Christ.

    Once you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in you heart he was raised from the dead (Romans 10:9), congrats you are a Christian. That easy. No where in scripture does it say you will immediately feel (notice I said feel, this doesn’t mean the Spirit isn’t at work) the indwellment of the Holy Spirit (that happy feeling). Now Philippians 4:6 says when we present our request to God with a thankful heart, a peace that transcends all understanding will come over us. This is not tied to initial salvation, but just a loving relationship with a thankful heart with your Creator. And how cool is that, we are created so we know we are not mistakes, even when we mess up.

    Other religions are real ? ut oh, a Christian said this! I am sure I’ll get flamed. Oh well it is true. Notice I said they are real, I didn’t say they are true. Christianity is uniquely different from all other religions. To support this statement is the work of many many many dissertations, so I won’t go into detail.

    In Christianity your faith is a gift from God, and this gift of faith alone is all that will save you. Remember earlier when I said believe God raised Jesus from the dead and you will be saved. All other religions require works. If you give all you money to the church you go to heaven. If you kill yourself while killing infidels you go to heaven. If you remove all doubt from your conscious you will be reincarnated no more. See everyone of these doesn’t require a god. Only Christianity does.

    Now we are all humans with a working body that depends on chemical reaction. It is how God made us. When we feel happy or at peace dopamine is released and we feel good. It doesn’t matter if we are internally happy for becoming an atheist or Christian we feel happy. This is not to be confused with the feeling of The Holy Spirit which I can not fully describe. I have been elated many times in my life and it is nothing like being with God.

    So yes other religions you can feel happy. But this is not that peace that transcends all understanding. That is why I say they can be real but a lie.

    It like this. Muslims believe so much what they were taught they will die for their blind faith. Does this make Islam true? No. But it doesn’t negate their faith either. Their faith is just placed wrong.

    The apostles also died for their faith. Is this different that Muslims? Yes because the apostles were not going off blind faith or handed down doctrine. They were the original eye witnesses and died for what they saw and knew to be true.

    Hope this helps.

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  5. Simon Yew says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:16 am

    Welcome. I would check out this channel. It has a good source to tell you what the bible is all about and break down each book in a hand drawn visual. It also cover a lot of other topic in the bible. https://www.youtube.com/user/jointhebibleproject

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  6. Roy Thagard says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:17 am

    I think what you describe is a person’s belief in their God to take care of them. Same as a crying parent begging a doctor to do all they can so the child can live. I’m with a comment above, evidence means something to me. When I prayed to God and he answered my prayer, that builds my trust and faith that he will be with me in my present and future needs. My faith grows as a result of the evidence that God is continually with me and he continually loves me. This is a great question, by the way. I praise you for your seeking and pray you find the answers in Christ who loves us all.

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  7. Johnathon Morris says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:31 am

    Beware of the charismatics. you get a sense of peace, but it won’t matter if you truly aren’t saved. you must be born again to receive forgiveness of sin. if you have doubts, check out the movie, “to answer the fool” by sye ten bruggencate. Remember when you are ready to give yourself up to Jesus, to call on His name in truth with all your mind, soul, strength, and heart, and beg Him to save you of your bondage to sin and to be your Lord and savior. when you do this in truth, and are ready to give up your sin, the world, and your flesh for Him, ask Him to cleanse your heart and mind from evil and wickedness and to give you a desire for the things of Him. He will give you a desire to read His Word, and to walk in Christ. Know that He died and did rise again the third day, defeating death that those who believe in Him might be saved. When you are saved, confess your sins to Him, and beg Him for forgiveness. If we ask for forgiveness before we are born again, we won’t have a relationship with God for Him to hear our prayers. Those who have this “feel good” feelings are forgiving themselves, which does nothing. God is a just God, you must trust in Jesus as He died and paid the price for our sins. if we do not trust in Jesus Christ, then we will pay for our own sin with justice done to us by God’s just judgement.

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  8. David Huckabay Jr says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:35 am

    I think there is a medical science answer, but I’m no an expert on that. It may be the same thing when a person decides to commit suicide that person often feels relieved, better than they felt before. So it may be the s as me feeling one gets when they realize the guilty of their sins has been washed away. It may be similar in other religions. But not all Christians feel euphoric when they come to Christ. When a person comes to Christ for real, euphoric or not, that person is no longer under condemnation. First, knowing that we deserve to go to hell because of our sin, but then receiving the free gift of eternal life in heaven with no condemnation can make a person feel euphoric.

    As far as the other religions, the euphoria they feel is a false, temporary feeling. It wanes away after awhile.

    Satan is a counterfeiter. He copies the things of God, that is why you see some similarities in other religions. For other religions outside of true Christianity are products of satan.

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  9. Eugene Millanes Sanchez says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:37 am

    Christianity is not about feelings brother but what is biblical truth.

    Yes stay away fron the Charismatic Churches, but rather find a Church that is hungry for the Word of God. A Reformed Church.

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  10. Glenn-Lewis Phillips says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:48 am

    Prayer is not forcing God to do whatever we wish. It is to aligning our will to God’s will. IF one has calmness after prayer then he/she understood that whatever the will of God is, it will surely be for our highest good… ???

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  11. Steve Taylor says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:50 am

    Welcome! I think at certain points we have to appreciate that there are psychological and sociological factors in our lives. Sometimes the things we believe and meditate on do genuinely benefit us for psychological reasons – that’s okay! It’s okay that the psychology of worship and prayer and fellowship and meditation and other things pay dividends whether you’re Christian or not. That in itself doesn’t undermine the factual basis of our claims or the other spiritual components of our lives.

    For me individually, I pledged my life in faith to Jesus, but then turned around the next day and decided it was all nonsense. And yet over the following month He had already begun his work in my life and was filling me with peace and changing my life and habits in remarkable ways, without any psychological basis I can determine for feeling those things. I stopped swearing overnight without even realising or believing I was a Christian. So I can personally attest that God does these things himself anyway, which is super reassuring for me – but it’s okay that in many cases these feelings come via normal and natural mechanisms that God has built into us.

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  12. Kate Wybrew says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:54 am

    I would say that emotions don’t inform truth. I didn’t experience any kind of euphoria when I gave my life to God, but that doesn’t detract from the validity of my conversion any more than an emotional experience would validate another’s conversion.

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  13. Spencer Williams says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:09 am

    One of the things that Christianity is called is “The Faith.” Faith is not dependent upon feelings or experiences but as scripture says faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things Not seen. True biblical Faith does not depend upon feelings or experiences. It’s nice for the people when they do have feelings that accompany what they believe but the absence of feeling or a euphoric feeling is not an indicator of a true experience. The Bible even tells us that Satan appears as an angel of light so not even a supernatural experience is an indicator of a true experience with God. It all boils down to believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that God raised him from the dead and confessing it with your mouth according to Romans chapter 10.

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  14. Jo Jo says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:19 am

    Before i became a Christian, i was into yoga & meditation. The calmness or peace or “euphoria” you mentioned is not really what appears it is. I remember it was a feeling. A temporary feeling after doing all those physical body stretches and meditation – or what is known as “emptying of the mind” or “release.”
    It never really heals the brokenness of the spirit. You enjoy the first hour or 2 but later on, you go home and you see nothing really changed.
    When i became Christian, it was not because i felt calm or euphoric. Actually i cried for days.. Lol.
    Because somehow God opened my eyes and i learned his truth.
    My life changed completely after that. The way i see people even changed. It was like i was given a new purpose. A new life with a lot of hope. ?

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  15. Sheila Anne says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:24 am

    The Holy Spirit brings a sense of well-being, contentment and wholeness to believers whatever their outward circumstances. Peace is therefore an indication of the Holy Spirit’s presence.

    Peace is part of the nature of the Holy Spirit

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  16. Sheila Anne says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:25 am

    Philippians 4:9
    9 What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me—practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.

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  17. Ian Hartley says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:34 am

    A friend told me I was Sinner. Part of was angry but another part of said, yes, absolutely true. I had prayed the Sinners prayer previously but the Law convicted me. For a couple of weeks a tremendous battle went on within me. Part of me kept on insisting I was a total idiot to believe the Gospel and another part of me said, the Bible is True. I reconciled it by repeating over and over again, Jesus is My Lord, My Saviour, that settles it. Still settled, My experience! Real life is not about feelings it’s about Fact. Faith comes by hearing, hearing by The Word of God. Buy a King James Bible, read Genesis Chapters 1-4, the Gospels, Acts and Romans, out aloud to yourself, you will Bless yourself. Buy a good book on Prophecy, check out Creation.com they have some good online speakers broadcasting worldwide at this time with Q and A. Become Armed and Dangerous with Truth so you can share with others. God Bless you in your Christian Walk.

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  18. Arthur Adam Haglund says:
    May 13, 2020 at 3:59 am

    It is sort of parallel to see a mountain of bills and a seemingly small amount of money to cover it all. You do the math and you realize you’ll just squeak by. Some people are still going to worry and some people are going to feel relief it has nothing to do with the truth of the situation has everything to do with the kind of person that is.

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  19. Kristen Park says:
    May 13, 2020 at 4:17 am

    He is before all things and in Him all things hold together, in Him we live and move and have our being. I think that because He made and loves and calls to us all, every person experiences Him to some extent at some times. “taste and see that the Lord is good”. It is through this ultimate pleasure of His presence that He makes Himself known, I think.

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  20. Erinda van Zyl says:
    May 13, 2020 at 6:16 am

    No, not necessarily. Other gods do exist and will have a hand in your life if you allow it – including nice feelings at times. However, Christ is the only path to salvation which can only be granted by our good, loving, just, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God above all gods. Our faith is not based on what we feel, though it is a relief to have such a powerful being to lean on in any circumstances – regardless of what feelings flow through you during prayer.

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  21. Karl Ernst Von Buddenbrock says:
    May 13, 2020 at 6:22 am

    Thanks for your very sensible question. The short answer is that the “sensation” people experience isn’t the final arbiter of truth. In other words, the veracity of the religion, or truth claim, isn’t dependent on the intensity, or even the existence of the emotional response. Faith isn’t a feeling – it’s an act of will based on a response to the truth claim. In a sense it is a leap, but not into the dark. That fallacy has been popular recently. Probably the best example I can give is of CS Lewis, who, after looking at all the claims and the abundant evidence, exercised faith, and in his own words was the “most reluctant convert in all of England.” You need to place your trust in Christ, and the concomitant emotional response isn’t the most important thing. It may or may not follow.

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  22. Manfred Boensch says:
    May 13, 2020 at 6:31 am

    Hi.

    Faith is Spiritual and there are spirits that mimic the HS but these spirits will always deny Jesus Christ as LORD and Savior. One cannot come to have an intimate relationship with Christ in the natural. God reveals Himself and your need for salvation through christ alone.
    All other religions have one thing in common, and that is that you earn salvation by doing good or being good. Christianity is the only religion where you receive salvation freely by Grace through faith, and it is your salvation that leads to good works through the Spirit of God

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  23. David Allan Deik says:
    May 13, 2020 at 7:40 am

    When you give your life to Jesus, you receive many things. The peace that passes all understanding is one. All fear is gone. I will never again be the same.

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  24. Robert Jarvis says:
    May 13, 2020 at 8:43 am

    Although I had a wonderful experience when I was saved, I know it was more than just ” feelings”- we can’t just have feelings and then say we’re Christian! Or else I could go out and get drunk, and say I’m a Christian now.When God comes to you , you KNOW- you know Him and whatever He tells you. The first thing He ever told me( and I knew it was Him) was to Read the Word( Bible), so knowing it was God, and knowing what He wanted me to do, I’ve been a regular reader all my walk with Him

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  25. Steven Wells says:
    May 13, 2020 at 8:46 am

    It is more than a feeling. God himself comes to live in your heart you download heaven. No other religion can claim that

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  26. Wyndell Ferrell says:
    May 13, 2020 at 9:36 am

    Agree with most here, one cannot gauge Salvation by feelings or emotions as those can come from just about anything. The Bible tells us we can have a calm assurance of our salvation if we are in Christ. Peace and Grace to you.

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  27. Simon Campbell says:
    May 13, 2020 at 11:17 am

    I understand where you’re coming from. You’re right in saying that people do have experiences and feelings of peace and calmness in other religious contexts, not just Christians. I think what a lot of people tend to struggle with is the difference between using your feelings/experiences to measure your faith and measuring your feelings/experiences against an objective source and testing them. The latter is the one that Christians ought to do, even though plenty of them don’t. Some people do have conversion stories that sound very dramatic and sometimes involving peaceful sensations, but they really don’t have to be. I know mine wasn’t like that. I only remember feeling a good sense of peace and joy because I knew that God had my life and soul in His hands because He made that clear to me and I was able to let go of my burden. People find faith in Christ in different ways, whether it’s through reading the scriptures or hearing something from a sermon or through desperate circumstances, it really doesn’t matter. Everyone’s story is part of the one big story which is the story of God redeeming His people. Don’t listen to anyone who tells you you have to feel something or experience something to know you’ve been saved, because the Bible says it’s by grace through faith alone so that no one may boast (Ephesians 2:9) it’s all about what Jesus has done for you in your place, (not what we’ve done for Jesus because we can do nothing) so that you can have your sins forgiven and have eternal life. Then you can enjoy newness of life with The Lord and look forward to being with Him and the church forever. Other religions will only offer you advice on how to live a good or “spiritual” life and they make promises that are based on your own performance or sincerity which means it’s all down to you. Christianity is about the good news that Jesus Christ has risen from the dead and He lives today and forever. He’s done all the work, all we need to do is put our trust in Him. And we don’t need to receive any more visions of revelations or dreams or any kind of sensation, because we already have the most credible and verifiable source there is, God’s Word, the Bible. Everything we need to know is in there. As well as reading through the gospels, the book of Romans and Hebrews are really good for explaining the Christian faith more deeply so I would definitely advise you to read them. The book of Revelation tells us what is yet to come. Hope this helps you my friend. God bless.

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  28. Sherman C Fletcher says:
    May 13, 2020 at 11:32 am

    Jesus can cause this feeling, But most likely it comes from our own sense of relief in knowing our sins are dealt with, Satan can do the same as he is the prince and ruler of this world. No one will realize their sin nature outside of the true living God.

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  29. MayOna Thomson says:
    May 13, 2020 at 11:46 am

    I have questioned the same Curtis, and on my journey, I came to realise not to go forward by feelings, but by His Word alone – I cannot stress that enough! I am not saying that when people repent, no-one should have feelings – yes they can, they may sense a great relief or all manner of feelings, but feelings are not to make our foundation! Trust His Word alone – feelings can mislead!! I hope this helps!

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  30. Anna Dekan says:
    May 13, 2020 at 11:49 am

    Gratefulness is universal. So is deception. Feelings can deceive. Seeking the One True God through His Word, by salvation in Jesus’ name, is mimicked to deceive, playing on our own desires, morals and minds. That’s why it is said to test the spirits and teachings against the Truth, the Holy Bible, by The Holy Spirit.

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  31. Brandon Fertig says:
    May 13, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    Christianity isn’t a feeling

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  32. Tj Moore says:
    May 13, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    Many people have describes peak emotions after being with prostitutes! Obviously the extreme example illustrates that emotions have nothing to do with faith in God!

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  33. Michael Moos says:
    May 13, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    One has to be very careful by expecting or be guided by “feeling”. Short answer no. Feelings are feelings. Faith in Christ doesn’t always bring a “feeling”. We have confidence in His life, death, burial and resurrection which could bring a peaceful feeling to you then or after as you grow in faith, realizing who Jesus is and what He has done. Be careful of people who follow feelings. They can be very deceptive. We don’t follow our hearts (Jeremiah 17:9) we follow the Word of God. Blessings man!

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  34. Joshua Sepe says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    There’s a lot of feelings, ancient books , beliefs , evidence. You must search it all as if in a court case. Find the truth. My thought.

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  35. Zach Michael says:
    May 13, 2020 at 1:31 pm

    Well heres the thing. They can report their calmness and peace but it never lasts. Its temporary. Also Christ rose from the dead proving what He taught was true

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  36. Margaret Stevens says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:45 pm

    Welcome. Always glad to have seekers

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  37. Emmanuel Jayaraju says:
    May 13, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    Hey @Curtis Todd
    I would like to respond to you is 2 parts:

    To differentiate Truth(Jesus/Christianity) from non-Truth(other worldviews), apply these 3 principles to come to a good conclusion:
    1. Logical Consistency
    2. Existential Relevance
    3. Emperical Verifiability

    *1st part*
    Consider
    “(3) Emperical Verifiability”:
    Very true that we experience what you told when we respond to Jesus’ call to follow Him by repenting for our sins. I’ve really not heard anyone from the non-Christian belief saying they experienced a “real long-lasting” inner peace… Peace that they refer to is more like temporary relief from their present situations when they meditate listening to some soothing music or so.. it’s very different from the peace Jesus talks about in John 14:27

    *2nd part*
    Consider
    “(2) Logical Consistency
    (3) Existential Relevance”

    This is where all other worldviews fall apart. Because you can apply Test for Christianity and it doesn’t fail.
    For example,
    Well.. instead of me narrating, listen to Ravi Zacharias, whose very words I used in my response.
    https://youtu.be/M3kM6Rax1AU

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  38. Tony Chan says:
    May 13, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    Curtis, and you said you were a slow learner. You are smart. You answered your own question. Yes, people who practice other faiths experiencing a form of spiritual deception.
    2 Corinthians 11:14
    And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

    I need people like you to join https://www.facebook.com/groups/129702255041932

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  39. Stewart MacLeod says:
    May 13, 2020 at 3:28 pm

    Don’t rely on feelings, they will, more often than not, let you down.

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  40. Marlene Ferguson says:
    May 13, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    We always need to rely on faith, not feelings. Part of faith, is reading God’s Word, and that leads and guides us. Although it’s nice to feel good, especially when God saves us, that is not the defining moment of salvation. It is God who saves us. When he touches us – the King of the Universe, there are going to be some good feelings. That is justification. The first step in salvation. Romans 5:1. But then, we have to move forward into sanctification. That means being holy, from the Greek, or basically, learning to follow Christ. That can also be wonderful, but as we begin to identify our sins and flaws, for the purpose of changing, it can be downright painful. Good feelings simply cannot be what keeps us going through the tough times. In fact, Paul says:

    “Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.” Romans 5:3-4

    This is the deeper walk with God. When God gave me this verse during a difficult and painful part of my life, I literally rejoiced, in spite of my natural feelings.

    I pray you can come to understand that worshiping and serving God is not rites or rituals, feelings or fears. It is about God himself touching our hearts and lives, and walking with us the rest of our days. What great security God gives us, knowing he is the sovereign God, and we are his children.

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  41. Gina Alston says:
    May 13, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    Feelings do not indicate salvation. Believing the gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 means we are saved.

    …That if you believe Christ died for your sins, was buried, rose again fulfilling the scriptures, you will be saved…

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  42. Luis Chvz says:
    May 13, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    Curtis Todd, how many God are in heaven ? One. How many Believes in god are ? Many. So people might say God or Gud of Dios or allah etc but there’s only one God and non other. So when anyone prays to God let’s take an atheist person who wants to find God, to whom he prays since he doesn’t believe in the existence of any ? What name abound he call him by ? Just by saying God and acknowledging his existence the God all might will listen to his plea. Later on he will learn more about the God he pray to and received and answer from. Later he will learn about jesuschrist and his role as our savior and redeemer. But how this translates to other religions ? Well when their heart it’s towards that God which is in heaven and which is one and non other, that God will answer him with peace and calmness with a clear mind and I desire to to Good toward others. There are no other Gods beside our father in heaven to which we have to deal with as Paul said. So feelings of his Holy Ghost will influence any who prays To God. Now this in no wise means that if you pray to idols God will hear oh no, but when I prayer it’s directed to heaven it teachers our maker who in his mercy understands our ignorance and answers us according to our needs.

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  43. Fred Galvez says:
    May 14, 2020 at 5:26 am

    One needs to be very careful with feelings. What is important for us is to make right choices. Feelings come and go and shealings also can be given to us by the evil one. But yes we can believe Jesus words – my peace I give you my peace I leave with you not a peace that the world gives do I give but a peace that surpasses all understanding and a peace that will remain with you . John 14

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  44. Les Kloot says:
    May 14, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    Look, even atheists shed a burden when they abandon all belief in God. Christians do experience a kind of conviction and unexplained sense of being drawn to make a commitment of their lives that is immediately met with that sense of peace that follows. For me there was an aversion to other beliefs like JWs, Mormons, lslam. I will never forget a billboard that spoke volumes to me….Come unto me all you that Labour and are heavy laden. I was outraged in the sense that it seemed l was the only person that it was written for. It was talking at me.

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  45. Alan G Hales says:
    May 15, 2020 at 3:52 am

    Only born again Christians can experience God in their spirit. those who aren’t saved, fell soulish emotions, Not spiritual emmotions.

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  46. Eric Varillas says:
    May 15, 2020 at 7:42 am

    I think it definitely speaks to a higher truth that probably none of us are able to grasp or articulate. I don’t necessarily believe Christianity to be any more or less true than any other supernatural claim, but at the same time, I wouldn’t be so arrogant to say that what I happen to believe is definitely the real or only truth. So many other faiths have the same (and sometimes even more) evidence for their supernatural claims than Christianity does.

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  47. Jason Edward Miller says:
    May 15, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    To be effected by the gospel and have sustained cooperation with its effects we are to love God with our heart, soul, mind and strength. This may or may not include goosebumps. Love is not a feeling but a graceful act of the will.

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  48. Jeremy Bickel says:
    May 15, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    The feelings themselves are responses to 2 things – it’s the feeling of doing what they have known for a long time they wanted to do (that might be similar to other religions, though I doubt the want to do it is – or could be – as deep as in Christianity, because God is actually there), and also there’s tremendous, sustained type of feelings associated with seeing your life turn around for the practical reason of the behavior new Christians dramatically change (and other religions might have this, too, based on how many good practicalities that religion has picked up from the Bible over the centuries). Maybe there are more sources than these 2. At any rate, feeling is just soulish level response. What Christianity has that the other religions don’t is that the human spirit becomes alive again after sin murdered it (say when we’re 2 years old or so and awareness comes in – JUST for reference, okay?). The human spirit being made alive again connects us to God in a way that goes beyond anything in the soul – God The Holy Spirit prays to God The Father on our behalf and we are capable of expressing faith. Compare the expression of faith to what the Buddhist attains to, and you’ll see at least a difference of amount if you can’t see a difference of type. A newborn Christian has faith surging powerfully – with or without emotion.

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  49. Ava Reyes says:
    May 19, 2020 at 10:21 pm

    It always feels good to come clean about things that have been weighing on us. I am certain any euphoric feelings is a chemical reaction in the brain, and not Jesus.

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  50. Zach Payne says:
    May 20, 2020 at 7:00 am

    Feelings can be felt by everyone. If you decide to join in a relationship with Christ it needs to be more than feeling. If not then you will eventually fall out of your faith when hard times hit again.

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