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In the Garden God gave Adam a command (law)…

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
– Genesis 2:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

That command set the stage for the Serpent’s work in bringing about man’s fall.

7 Well then, am I suggesting that the law of God is sinful? Of course not! In fact, it was the law that showed me my sin. I would never have known that coveting is wrong if the law had not said, “You must not covet.” 8 But sin used this command to arouse all kinds of covetous desires within me! If there were no law, sin would not have that power. 9 At one time I lived without understanding the law. But when I learned the command not to covet, for instance, the power of sin came to life, 10 and I died. So I discovered that the law’s commands, which were supposed to bring life, brought spiritual death instead. 11 Sin took advantage of those commands and deceived me; it used the commands to kill me. 12 But still, the law itself is holy, and its commands are holy and right and good.

13 But how can that be? Did the law, which is good, cause my death? Of course not! Sin used what was good to bring about my condemnation to death. So we can see how terrible sin really is. It uses God’s good commands for its own evil purposes.

14 So the trouble is not with the law, for it is spiritual and good. The trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin. 15 I don’t really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don’t do it. Instead, I do what I hate. 16 But if I know that what I am doing is wrong, this shows that I agree that the law is good. 17 So I am not the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.

18 And I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. I want to do what is right, but I can’t. 19 I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway. 20 But if I do what I don’t want to do, I am not really the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.

21 I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22 I love God’s law with all my heart. 23 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. 24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?
– Romans 7:7-24 New Living Translation (NLT)

People want what they can’t have.

The fall of man presents so many dynamics that need to be fully explored and understood.

For one, it seems that the Serpent plays a major role. And in seeking to understand the fall we must seek to understand the origin of the Serpent and its fall as well.

Whereas man has factors that led to his fall (the Serpent and Eve), what were the factors that led to the Serpent’s fall?

Of further consideration are the questions surrounding the set up placed before Adam, Eve, and the Serpent.

Would we ever place a chocolate cake and a gun before a very young child and say,

“Choose. You can eat the cake. But you must not pick up that shinny gun. It will kill you.”

In the mean time behind the scenes another older child known to be of malovolent leanings is allowed to interact with the young child.

Thoughts to think about.

Discussion

6 comments

  1. Julie Jones says:

    That tree in Eden wrought death
    Christ Jesus is Lord over all things makes Satans destructive work through Edens tree non void as Jesus is the TREE OF LIFE
    Amen

  2. Dwight Osborne says:

    He actually gave them a second rule, too, one they also didn’t obey. “And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” They didn’t multiply very quickly and they neither filled the earth. Through their sin of disobedience, they gave up dominion over the earth.

  3. Rizaldy S. Menor says:

    Nice!

  4. Francis Jesulobatemi says:

    Discourse is great but presenting Adam and Eve and the serpent like children gives it a faulty background.
    It spoils the whole discourse

  5. John Camara says:

    It’s absurd to think that God did not know before setting out to create that His creation would go sour. He knew full well, and chose to proceed because He desired such an outcome. At His disposal were many options but He settled upon those options that led to the world we have today. All is going according to plan, and one day He will make a new heaven and earth where there will be no sin or evil.

    These matters cannot be denied. Many teachers in the church do deny them though. And it’s a lie. God knew all along before He created the universe that His creation eventually would become corrupt with evil and sin. And yet He still went ahead and created it. It’s not as if He could not have created a universe with no sin or evil for He does just that when He creates the new heaven and the new earth.

    These matters have occupied many a mind through the centuries.

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
    – Epicurus

    Some seek for an escape from these matters by appealing to the belief that humans have free will. And that God respects our free will. But that’s not so. If God respected our will we would have been given a choice as to whether we wanted to exist or not. Along with a choice as to what our lives would entail, such as location of birth, sex, skin color, etc.

    God’s will is supreme over our will. No matter what plans we make God always accomplishes what He wants through our decisions and actions.

    Our God is in the heavens; he does all that he pleases.
    – Psalm 115:3

    Whatever the LORD pleases, he does, in heaven and on earth, in the seas and all deeps.
    – Psalm 135:6

    In Matthew there’s an account that has spoken to my heart many times as I’ve pondered these matters…

    And behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.”
    – Matthew 8:2

    That leper stated a great truth. If God is willing He can do anything He wants.

    Why is God not stopping evil in the world? He’s not willing to do so. Not at this time.

    Why is God not saving every person on earth? He’s not willing to do so. Not at this time anyways.

    A. W. Pink had this to say…

    “To argue that God is ‘trying His best’ to save all mankind, but that the majority of men will not let Him save them, is to insist that the will of the Creator is impotent, and that the will of the creature is omnipotent.”

    If God knew what we would do before He created us, and had the option of creating someone else who would make different choices, who is ultimately responsible for our choices and actions?

    When God created the butterfly He anticipated the caterpillar. In the same way when He created Lucifer He anticipated the Devil. Or are we to believe that God did not know before He created Lucifer that he would become the Devil? Or are we to believe that He knew but had no choice but to create him? That He could not have created a cherub whom He foresaw not rebelling and becoming the Devil? Was God bound to what He foresaw Himself doing and had no way of escaping His future actions?

    God did not just have one option. He had many options. And with each option He could look into the future and see all decisions that each optional creation would make.

    He created Lucifer knowing that he would rebel. He could have created a cherub that He knew would not rebel.

    He could have created a being whose actions He knew would be faithful. He had the power to look into the future and see all actions of any cherub He was contemplating creating.

    He settled upon a cherub that He knew would rebel. Therefore Satan has his origin in God’s decision to create Lucifer.

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