When he was on earth Jesus said he built only one church. How can we today 2000 years later tell which one is bible one? Matt 18
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By looking at history. Ephesians 2 tells us that the Apostles founded the Church and the prophets (notice this intimate connection to Judaism). When we look at the writings of the early Christians, they identify that the Catholic Church was founded by the Apostles. Therefore, the Church in scripture that is promised to never have the gates of hell prevail against and upholds the truth is the Catholic Church of Rome.
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Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for THERE IS NO OTHER NAME under heaven given among men by which we must be SAVED.”Romans 16:16
Greet one another with a holy kiss THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST greet you. -
The church isn’t a denomination but those who have given their life to christ
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There is just one holy catholic church but like ice cream there are many flavors
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We the believers are the church
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The church is the Body of Christ (believers)
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Church of Christ, are people, not buildings or denominations, Christ’s church are people saved by Him from all families of the earth.
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Based on Scripture. So anyone who Has Scripture as their Standard of Truth they are the True Christians.
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It is the universal church. the body of believers around the world
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The Church is the Bride of Christ which consists of all that belong to Him. It is not one particular denomination. The claim to be Jesus Christ’s only true church upon the earth, is one of the telltale hallmarks of a cult.
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You are wrong, the church Jesus built is a spiritual body of Christ . denominations are not churches.
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I know it’s corny, but that’s identifying the church as a denomination/organisation but the church is the people and we are to be one….. but oneness is often lacking in this group when healthy, edifying discussion should be the norm.
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It’s the Catholic Church, you can see that through biblical comparison and looking at history. Deep History proves it best
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The church is the network of Christians around the world and over many generations. It’s not a building
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The church that Jesus built is the entire body of Christians, not a specific denomination.
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Gods church will be individuals who believe by faith that Christ died for their sins and rose again on the 3rd day. That is the gospel. These individuals will come from all walks of life and many different denominations. Doesn’t matter what traditions you are use to as long as you believe and trust the gospel!!!!
People make it harder than it is.
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By searching the Scriptures and trusting in the Holy Spirit to provide wisdom and discernment.
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There is still only one church. Different buildings & some have different ideas… but same church.
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Gregory Kayko Creeds and creed books are not for Christians.
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In the first century, had you mentioned words like, “Catholic”, “Nun”, “Pope”, etc, you would’ve gotten a blank stare! No one knew about those things until HUNDREDS of years after the Apostles had died.
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The apostle Paul said catholicism is the revealed coming of the power of lawlessness one who will be in accordance with how Satan works. They perish because they refused to love the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
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The church Jesus built consists of everyone that repents and confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and submits to the Holy Spirit and tries to be holy and whatever is God’s will. It is NO specific denomination. There are probably both saved people and unsaved people in every denomination. What matters is not the denomination but repentance, obedience, and faith in Christ.
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In Corinthians, there is the point that Christians are the body of Christ and individual members are compared to eye, ear, nose, mouth… and how each is important and has its own function in the body of Christ. The same could probably be true of various churches and denominations. Different individual churches could have different callings and different missions as no one church body and do and be everything. People can find where they belong: a church focused on one kind of music or another, and the various different ministries and mission emphases, Bible studies… Of course, some churches can have a lot of sin and/ior heresy and NOT be a part of the body of Christ or be various degrees of ill, but in general, Christian churches each have a role to play within the body of Christ. ( I would say Mormons and JWs are NOT Christians. Catholics are just barely. And some churches like the UCC are so liberal they are probably no longer Christian, but God will judge each individual’s mind and heart and relationship to Himself, not by which church attend unless it is a disobedient act from where God called one to be..)
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Whatever this church is it would need to stay uninterrupted while both visible and authoritative. And would need to be infallible on at least the core essentials of faith and morals or we could never be sure on a final interpretation of what the Bible means. Historically the only candidates that fit at least the bill would be the Catholic, Coptic or Orthodox churches. If neither fit the bill for those ultimate three named above that Jesus would have to be a false prohet because those three traits were covered in the use of the word “church” in chapters 16 and 18 of Matthew. Using this logic an apologist poked a hole in a young Mormon missionary’s zeal since his church was only founded in 1830.
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His Church are the people that have accepted Him as Savior.
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Too bad more people won’t use the Bible as the guidebook and look for the church of the Bible that way
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The creeds recognize” the holy catholic church” with a little “C’ not a capital “C.” It means universal. NOT a particular denomination. Not an organization, but an organism.
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Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for THERE IS NO OTHER NAME under heaven given among men by which we must be SAVED.”Romans 16:16
Greet one another with a holy kiss THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST greet you. -
The New Testament teaches us what the church is, and what the church should be today, according to the plan of God.
First, the church was built and purchased by Christ (Matt. 16:18; Acts 20:28). No one has the right to start a church as a divinely approved institution (cf. 1 Cor. 1:10-13). Christ, the Son of God, is the only one qualified, and he has established his church (cf. Eph. 4:4; 1:22-23).
After religious division arose within the church at Corinth, Paul asked some probing questions. “Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?” (1 Cor. 1:13). The church belongs to Christ on the basis of these gospel truths. He died for it. He built it. He lays down requirements through which we can belong to him. The church belongs to Christ. He is the head of the church (Col. 1:18).
Second, the church that belongs to Christ began on the day of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2. Religious bodies that have their origin in Rome, Zurich, London, or any other place but Jerusalem, are ones that started in the wrong places. The Lord’s church was founded by Christ through the preaching of the apostles in Jerusalem, corresponding to Old Testament prophecy (Is. 2:2-4).
When the gospel was preached by Paul, and others, throughout the ancient world, different denominations were not set up. Whenever the pure gospel of Christ was taught, just as it was preached for the first time in Jerusalem, the result was simply Christians who belonged to Christ — collectively the church of Christ — when people obeyed the gospel.
If there was no congregation of the Lord’s church in your hometown, and you started teaching others about the death of Jesus, the benefits of his redemptive blood, and the requirements of the New Testament to have the forgiveness of sins — you would not be setting up a denomination. Rather, you would be following the New Testament pattern, and those who obey the gospel would be a part of the Lord’s church. The church of Christ would then exist in your hometown, and the New Testament alone would be its guide for work and worship.
Third, only divinely appointed names were worn by the church. Such designations like church of Christ (Rom. 16:16) and church of God (1 Cor. 1:2) are scriptural names that describe the church as belonging to Christ and God.
“The church of Christ” is not a denominational title that describes a religious institution established by men. Rather, it is the collective reference to the people of God in the world — people who follow the New Testament teaching regarding the church.
Fourth, being saved is the way to membership in the Lord’s church (Acts 2:47). There should be no mistake as to the method by which salvation may be realized. A person must have faith in Jesus as the Son of God (Jn 20:30-31; Jn. 8:24), repent of sin (Acts 17:30), confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised him from the dead (Rom. 10:9,10), and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38; 22:16).
When a person is saved according to the Lord’s instructions that are in the New Testament, when he is “baptized into Christ” (Gal. 3:26-27), he is at that time a member of his church (Eph. 5:23). “And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved” (Acts 2:47).
Fifth, the Lord’s church honors the authority of Christ. From the start, the church respected the Lord as the head of the church, for “… they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers” (Acts 2:42).
The church has a divinely appointed mission (Matt. 28:19-20; Mk. 16:15-16). In submitting to the Lord’s authority, Christians ought to worship according to the New Testament (Jn. 4:24; Col. 3:16-17). In subjecting themselves to the headship of Jesus, congregations of the Lord’s church must govern themselves according to the New Testament teaching.
If Christ is the head of the church, we can not implement our own worship styles or leadership preferences. Christ is mindful of what goes on within his congregations. He will discipline them, and he will consider them apostate if they persist in unscriptural practices (cf. Rev. 2:5; 2 Jn. 9).
The New Testament gives a clear picture of what the church was under the leadership of the Lord’s apostles. The church’s origin was divine; it continues to be subject to the authority of Christ. Should it not be the same today — simply, the church of Christ?
The church of Christ is not MY church: the church of Christ is Christ’s church. I am a member of His church He built Matt. 16:18
Rom 2:28, 29. Who and what is the “new Jew”?
“For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: ??? ?? ?? ? ???, ????? ?? ??? ????????; ??? ???????????? [New testament immersion] ?? ???? ?? ??? ?????, ?? ??? ??????, ??? ??? ?? ??? ?????? whose praise is not of men, but of God.” -
What Is the Church of Christ?
“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son… In that day there SHALL BE A FOUNTAIN OPENED to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.” Zechariah 12:10, 13:1
Romans 16:16
Greet one another with a holy kiss. The churches of Christ greet you.The Church of Christ abides in the doctrine of Christ (2 John 9-11)
The New Testament is the only place to which we can turn to learn about the church of Christ. We recall that the church is described as the eternal purpose of God (Eph. 3:9-11). It is obviously very important. It is necessary, therefore, that we are educated by the New Testament and not by the ideas of men.
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The New Testament teaches us what the church is, and what the church should be today, according to the plan of God.
First, the church was built and purchased by Christ (Matt. 16:18; Acts 20:28). No one has the right to start a church as a divinely approved institution (cf. 1 Cor. 1:10-13). Christ, the Son of God, is the only one qualified, and he has established his church (cf. Eph. 4:4; 1:22-23).
After religious division arose within the church at Corinth, Paul asked some probing questions. “Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?” (1 Cor. 1:13). The church belongs to Christ on the basis of these gospel truths. He died for it. He built it. He lays down requirements through which we can belong to him. The church belongs to Christ. He is the head of the church (Col. 1:18).
Second, the church that belongs to Christ began on the day of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2. Religious bodies that have their origin in Rome, Zurich, London, or any other place but Jerusalem, are ones that started in the wrong places. The Lord’s church was founded by Christ through the preaching of the apostles in Jerusalem, corresponding to Old Testament prophecy (Is. 2:2-4).
When the gospel was preached by Paul, and others, throughout the ancient world, different denominations were not set up. Whenever the pure gospel of Christ was taught, just as it was preached for the first time in Jerusalem, the result was simply Christians who belonged to Christ — collectively the church of Christ — when people obeyed the gospel.
If there was no congregation of the Lord’s church in your hometown, and you started teaching others about the death of Jesus, the benefits of his redemptive blood, and the requirements of the New Testament to have the forgiveness of sins — you would not be setting up a denomination. Rather, you would be following the New Testament pattern, and those who obey the gospel would be a part of the Lord’s church. The church of Christ would then exist in your hometown, and the New Testament alone would be its guide for work and worship.
Third, only divinely appointed names were worn by the church. Such designations like church of Christ (Rom. 16:16) and church of God (1 Cor. 1:2) are scriptural names that describe the church as belonging to Christ and God.
“The church of Christ” is not a denominational title that describes a religious institution established by men. Rather, it is the collective reference to the people of God in the world — people who follow the New Testament teaching regarding the church.
Fourth, being saved is the way to membership in the Lord’s church (Acts 2:47). There should be no mistake as to the method by which salvation may be realized. A person must have faith in Jesus as the Son of God (Jn 20:30-31; Jn. 8:24), repent of sin (Acts 17:30), confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised him from the dead (Rom. 10:9,10), and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38; 22:16).
When a person is saved according to the Lord’s instructions that are in the New Testament, when he is “baptized into Christ” (Gal. 3:26-27), he is at that time a member of his church (Eph. 5:23). “And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved” (Acts 2:47).
Fifth, the Lord’s church honors the authority of Christ. From the start, the church respected the Lord as the head of the church, for “… they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers” (Acts 2:42).
The church has a divinely appointed mission (Matt. 28:19-20; Mk. 16:15-16). In submitting to the Lord’s authority, Christians ought to worship according to the New Testament (Jn. 4:24; Col. 3:16-17). In subjecting themselves to the headship of Jesus, congregations of the Lord’s church must govern themselves according to the New Testament teaching.
If Christ is the head of the church, we can not implement our own worship styles or leadership preferences. Christ is mindful of what goes on within his congregations. He will discipline them, and he will consider them apostate if they persist in unscriptural practices (cf. Rev. 2:5; 2 Jn. 9).
The New Testament gives a clear picture of what the church was under the leadership of the Lord’s apostles. The church’s origin was divine; it continues to be subject to the authority of Christ. Should it not be the same today — simply, the church of Christ?
The church of Christ is not MY church: the church of Christ is Christ’s church. I am a member of His church He built Matt. 16:18
Rom 2:28, 29. Who and what is the “new Jew”?
“For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: ??? ?? ?? ? ???, ????? ?? ??? ????????; ??? ???????????? [New testament immersion] ?? ???? ?? ??? ?????, ?? ??? ??????, ??? ??? ?? ??? ?????? whose praise is not of men, but of God.” -
All scripture is given by inspiration of God and His Word is profitable for doctrine for correction for instruction in righteousness. His Word is the answer for you.
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pretty sure its not the catholic church
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Read the Gospels
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There are 38,000 denominations that all teach something different on how to be saved. Which one is right and how do you know?
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When the apostles pointed at others healing in Jesus’ name, what did He say to them? John 10:16 “And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
(John 10:16 KJV)
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True Christians are Christ’s Church, and we’re also His Bride.
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You need to read the Bible, for to know the word of God, and then you will know which one is true and which one is not true
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According to the question asked there still is only one church. If you define church as something other than God’s people or who belongs to Him, you know some entity that has the word church in it, then I understand the confusion.
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easy catholic church
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Ed Weems / I am so glad that you taught me the truth about the sabbath, and how you are right and everyone else is wrong, and you proved it all from “Revelations.” How did I miss that?
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Because church is NOT a denomination, its the people
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Jesus built ONE Church, which is made up from every born again believer, no matter what denomination they are in.
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Read and study your Bible so you will know which church teaches truth.
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Anyone who is born again and belongs to Jesus Christ is part of His Church, his called-out ones.
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