For all KJVO “lovers”, the best translation of the Bible is the one you actually read. If you like to beat up on the rest of us who don’t read the KJV, make sure you read your KJV from cover to cover, but not necessarily in that order. So, remember that the purpose of the scriptures is to learn to know the true heart of God, not to boast about what translation you find to be superior.
I don’t know any KJV only people.
We are anti-Alexandarian text.
(KJV and Geneva versions don’t use it. But KJV is more updated so we use it over Geneva.
I’m King James only …. but I promise not to hate you if you’re not …… lol
I read KJV, NKJV, NASB ( my go to ), the Complete Jewish Study Bible, ESV, CSB and the Passion for Song of Solomon as well ss the October Bible for the NT love them all
I’m 18, KJVO but no need to bash other translations. Unless it NWT.
No translation is infallable.. it is the “word” itself, that is inspired (God-brethe)… No translation is inspired by the Holy Spirit, but they may be guided. That’s why we need the Holy spirit to properly interpret.
Even king james had flaws..
in fact, the “wicked Bible” is KJV.
What I would ask kjv only people is this. How can you proove the the kjv is the same as the original manuscripts? What about the bibles before the kjv? Were they all wrong also and only the kjv is right? I am asking as I have three people in my life who are staunch kjv only. I couldnt ask them any of these questions without a fight starting ?
I think it doesnt matter what version we read as long as we get the full context of the bible we read. If your prefered version of the bible doesnt help you to do that, there’s plenty more. The message is what’s important not the how it was written.
The King James version is not perfect but I believe it is one of the most accurate translations excluding tyndale’s word for word. All translations are absolutely not equal. The Bible is the most sold book ever known to man and the only way to make a dollar is to rewrite because the King James version is copyrighted. I do believe it is very inappropriate to bash someone because they have chosen a different translation, what I have found is, if you are a serious Bible student it will not take very long to start weeding out some of these corrupted translations but we all grow at different paces.
What if your Bible Version’s message disagrees with another ?
They dont all have the same meanings.
Read multiple versions and you find different meanings for the same verse.
NWT goes as far as omitt Hell from it and other things Jehovah Witnesses don’t believe.
This is english version problem too.
There is not no where as nesr as many German versions of the Bible.
Also there is tribes other groups of people with just 1 version in their languages.
Hebrew 1:13-14
I am KJV-preferred and am learning more about the Bible version/text debate. I am a Fundamental Baptist by conviction, but I am also trying to maintain the balance in not going into the extremes, when other Christians disagree over which Bible to use and what type of Christian music is honoring unto God. I also enjoy singing and learning the great hymns of the faith.
There are plenty of good translations that use the Hebrew and Greek to translate. I was once in the kjv only crowd years and years ago until I started researching translations. Actually the kjv has some problems but it’s still good( for instance areas where Jesus talks about resisting an evil doer etc King James commissioned the kjv and the translators did have politics in play as well, so don’t be surprised when verses on God ordaining monarchs is stressed and verses on resisting oppression are tweaked a little just compare with the Geneva Bible which was translated by reformers who were exiled for their beliefs–they had no political authority breathing down their necks). I’d just use it as one of the many you can to study out of. When studying I tend to like several translations. I use a biblehub app that has different translations available and also the Greek and hebrew literal meanings. It also has the concordance and lexicons as well. I also study from a few different versions of the tenakh and Chumash
The Message + ESV + KJV
King James translation is incredibly flawed. It deliberately changes a lot of things to fit the theology of the translators.
False.
kjv is just another translation of translation of translation . Acts 1:22 the word ordained should not be inserted there .. they were not supposed to have Matthew 18:11 in it , i can go further lol ?
My twelve cents worth. Although I am using NIV, I am not real particular with the version anyone uses except for one: the most recently published The Message bible. To me, it’s not “kosher” to arbitrarily transliterate (not translate, mind you) the meaning of Scripture. Once you do that, you see, its true essence is lost and exchanged by humanistic logic, apparently to make it ‘lighter’ or easier for the reader to grasp. The translators did not give consideration to the fact that the Scriptures are embued with divine inspiration and is why a lot of its content seems mysterious and hard to understand. They fail to realize that it wasn’t just made just for man like a textbook but for God to speak to man. This is all I want to share in the hope of opening the eyes of some.
I have come to appreciate many various translation. The translators approached their task any different ways – others translated by using word for word, other paragraph by paragraph, others the meaning or their understanding of the whole text etc etc We must really appreciate their effort as their goal was for us to receive the word of God in the language we understand.
I love the KJV. Decided this year to read it front to back. Only in Deuteronomy now. I always pray for wisdom before i read it. I love KJVs literary tone throughout. It’s almost like a song in prose.
I wouldn’t agree with this. The NWT, the Passion Translation, and many others, may be well read, but they’re deliberately fudged. I think you should amend your argument slightly. The best translation is definitely subjective, as the aim of a translation is to convey a message in one language in another. Therefore, you’re right: if someone prefers the KJV, they should read it, as it IS a good translation. Not perfect, it even contains what is a swear word today, but still good. That being said, some people can’t make head nor tail of it. God didn’t tear the curtain in two only to erect a language barrier in its place!
New King James Version
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers.
English Standard Version
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
KJVO?
Word for Word translations only:
KJV, NKJV, ESV, NASB, NRV
Versions like the NIV are not translations they are interpretations and borderline commentaries
Textus Receptus agrees with the earliest versions of the Bible: Peshitta (AD150) Old Latin Vulgate(AD157), the Italic Bible (AD157) etc. These Bibles were produced about 200 years before the Minority Texts (like the Vaticancus and Sinai) favored by the Roman Catholic Church.
Nobody’s beatin’ up on you, Joe. The books don’t say the same things.
We’re saved by believing the words in a geology textbook. You show up with a history one and start pissin’ and moanin’ because we’re beating up on you when we tell you you’ve got the wrong book.
Every ‘new’ bible has to have a certain number of deliberate changes to avoid violating copyright laws. What’s your book (the history one you’re using instead of the geology one you should be) say about deliberately changing God’s words?
Does it say something like “I don’t care what you do with my words as long as you don’t violate copyright laws?” Is there something in there along the lines of “My words really don’t matter?”
Robert the issue is over texts they’re based on.
KJV is based on Texts found where Most ancient Christians lived.
95+% of all greek texts agree with it.
Almost every modern Bible version is based on 5% or less of All Greek texts.
Also Most ancient Christians did not live in Egypt.
The minority texts disagree with each other more than the majority texts.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
John 1:1-3 KJV
“In the beginning [before all time] was the Word ( Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. He was [continually existing] in the beginning [co-eternally] with God. All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him not even one thing was made that has come into being.”
John 1:1-3 AMP
The point is that it is Jesus alone that saves us. His word is truth and He is the word. Let Him speak to you through His word. God is bigger than our transitions of it. I say just know which translations are word for word from ancient text and which are a paraphrase of those text. When doing word studies we should use literal translations and when we want to read in His word for the purposes of basic understanding that fit our culture and its grammar as we use it. Jesus will use both to save our souls so long as we allow His word it speak to us.
Parphase Bibles is basically reading Bible commentaries. The translators add their opinion.
Word for Word is basically what God said literally.
I see a photoshop’d cloud.
Well said Joseph!
CGI.
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