Hello, I’ve been thinking a lot about John 3:16, and…

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1. Yehoshua Marion says:

   April 28, 2020 at 10:07 pm

   It was a legal transaction.
   Our sin requires a payment of death.
   Jesus paid this fine and died in our place.
   “Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin”.

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2. Mandee Brady says:

   April 28, 2020 at 10:46 pm

   The wages of sin is death. That’s law as much as gravity is law. Someone had to die for the sins we commit. He did so we don’t have to. While our body dies, our soul will have eternity with him

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3. Jono Rosie says:

   April 28, 2020 at 10:59 pm

   It’s the only way that God can be merciful and righteous at the same time.

   Righteous — God must punish all sin. Otherwise, He wouldn’t be righteous.

   Merciful — Jesus took the punishment for us so that we wouldn’t have to.

   Hence, God is righteous for punishing sin and merciful for allowing us to not receive the punishment.

   And only Jesus could take our punishment in our place because he was the only one to live a perfect/sinless life (he was the only person who ever could live a sinless life because he’s God).

   Thus, Jesus is the only way through which God can be both righteous and merciful at the same time.

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4. Jelaya Stewart says:

   April 28, 2020 at 11:03 pm

   Nice question, The Bible says it like this, most people aren’t willing to die for a righteous person, but that a person may die for a good person, But Jesus died for the sinners, God had a unique way of showing his love and mercy and care for us, by giving up his son because what other way would show his seriousness?

   Romans5:6
   For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
   7:
   For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—
   8but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

   Secondly I’m the Old Testament When a person would sin they needed to sacrifice animals and the blood of the animals would cover their sins to God. The problem is everytime they sinned they had to sacrifice an animal, but in the New Testament, We have someone who covered our sins for us so that we wouldn’t have to keep on sacrificing animals, Jesus Christ was the blood sacrifice that was only enough to not only cover our sins but to forgive our sins.
   One may ask why all of this? Why die for people? Why suffer? Why did that have to happen? Because sacrificial love is the greatest love someone can receive. Not many people will do this. But Jesus did this.

   -Hebrews 9:13-10:18 King James Version (KJV)

   13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

   14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

   15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

   16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

   17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

   18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

   19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

   20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

   21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

   22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

   23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

   24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

   25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

   26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

   27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

   28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

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5. Tom Paschen says:

   April 28, 2020 at 11:05 pm

   Yeah it’s like laying your life down for a friend. Stepping in front of a bullet for a loved one to spare them from death. Or offering yourself as a hostage to let others go.

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6. Paul Swan says:

   April 28, 2020 at 11:16 pm

   You are right about one thing: you don’t understand (yet). Let’s try to fix that together. First, let’s start with a principle. It is this: God is holy, pure, and perfect. Sin is offensive to Him and His justice requires that all sins must be punished. If God did not intervene in some way, every sinful human being should be sent (and would be sent) to hell after judgment. If God would like to show mercy and forgive, there is an obstacle: His justice. In barefaced uncomplicated terms: if God is just, He cannot be merciful to sinners and if God is merciful to sinners He is not just. There is the problem. Is God wise enough to overcome it? Yes. By sending His Son to suffer and die for sins which He did not commit, you have rightly observed that it would not accomplish anything in itself if that were the only thing occurring. But there is a part of the equation which you left out, not intentionally, of course. Here is the missing fact. When a person believes the Gospel about Jesus Christ, a miracle occurs. The Spirit of God enters that new believers body and begins living inside them. He not only takes up residence (Gal. 4:6), He unites with their human spirit (1 Cor.6:17). Due to this spiritual union, the believer shares certain events in the Spirit’s history (kind of like Hawaii celebrating it’s Independence Day: the 4th of July 1776). In other words, the believer today by union with God’s Spirit gets to share the Spirit’s history. Since the Spirit lived inside Jesus Christ’s body when that body suffered and died, then that experience is retroactively shared by all modern-day Christians as if they had personally been there in the past. In that way, by identifying with God’s Spirit living inside Jesus, believers have already been punished for their sins IN their Savior. His death has now become their deaths, etc. Since believers have already been punished and paid for their sins by residing in their Savior when it happened, God can now be merciful and forgive them without violating His justice. Christianity is the only religion that offers this: identificational atonement. (The exchange/trade theory of atonement espoused and taught by all other Christian leaders today is entirely inadequate.) That is why Jesus had to suffer and die in order for believers to be forgiven and why we have to believe if we want to benefit from it.

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7. Louie Batislaon says:

   April 28, 2020 at 11:26 pm

   Alex Tworek Read this article. It is exactly your question.
   https://crossexamined.org/cant-god-just-forgive-us/

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8. Jered Oluoch says:

   April 28, 2020 at 11:37 pm

   The same love Abraham had on his son is the same love YAHUSHA has over HIS SON YAHUSHA.. in many occasions you know that the the father usually put his self infront of anything dangerous but HE putting HIS SON YAHUSHA infront just for us shows that He loves us to that extent….

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9. Ian Tan says:

   April 28, 2020 at 11:45 pm

   1. It’s about consequences.
   2. It’s also about Satan somehow.
   3. It’s about God.

   1. Consequences: I drove my car but I was careless. I hit a car and it was bad. I got down to apologize and to pay for the damages but lo and behold, it turns out to be my close friend.

   He said “Oh it’s you. Hey, don’t worry about it. Just go home and be well – you know what, here’s a pancake and a hug from me. Bye.”

   I went home. He went home.
   All is good.

   Actually, all is not good despite what he says because serious damage was done. Restoration is required. Payment in kind is the only appropriate thing to do.

   Similarly, sin has damaging consequence: death. Hence, the appropriate payment is required for restoration even if God says with a wink “we’re good”. God initiates ‘Operation Restoration’ through Jesus Christ.

   2. Satan: His number 1 hobby is accusation. He will accuse both God and Man. The cross tape is now placed over his mouth. The cross tape is like duct tape but way stronger – it’s permanent.
   Whatever argument he throws against God and Man is invalid.

   3. The cross is the ONLY way for God to be both:
   a. Just
   b. Justifier
   He cannot be JUST by JUSTIFYING a sinner with hugs and kisses.

   Peace.

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10. Jerry Duckworth says:

    April 29, 2020 at 12:15 am

    Jesus died on the cross to save us from the wrath of God. God is Holy and hates sin. We all have sinned and are deserving of eternal punishment. No one can enter into Heaven while being guilty of just 1 sin. So, Jesus Christ, the 2nd person in the Godhead, came to earth and fulfilled all the laws we could not fulfill. He lived a perfect life. When He died on the cross 2 things occured. 1 the world’s sin was placed upon Him and God punished Jesus for those sins, so that we dont have to be punished. 2. Jesus’ perfect life is attributed to all beleivers so when we stand before God He will see us as perfect and we can be allowed entrance into Heaven. Jesus’ death is sufficient for everyone because He is eternal. His death pays the price of an infinite number of men’s deaths because He is God.
    So in short Jesus had to die so that the wrath of God would be satisfied. Isaiah 53 and Galatians 3 really explains it all very well. I would suggest reading those passages.

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11. Jerry Duckworth says:

    April 29, 2020 at 12:18 am

    https://youtu.be/8Kge2MI6Onc

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12. Ralph T. A. Ranger says:

    April 29, 2020 at 1:57 am

    God is perfect and holy. As such God wouldn’t be perfect and Holy if he was in the presence of sin. Because God is also perfect justice, He has a way for us to pay the price of sin. That is through sacrifice. In the old days God accepted the blood of an innocent animal (as you said blood is life), but sin is death. So the blood sacrifice of an innocent animal paid for the death in sin humans commit.

    This wasn’t sufficient for everyone in the world. In fact our sin is so bad that we can never atone for it.

    So God being perfect and Holy, and also love offered himself up (the Son) and the final sacrifice to pay our debt of death in sin. His blood was sufficient to meet the perfect justice needed by God to pay for our sin. Once our sin is paid for God can forgive us.

    This is a good article that sums up what is called propitiation.

    https://www.gotquestions.org/propitiation.html

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13. Andre van der Sandt says:

    April 29, 2020 at 2:25 am

    Alex Tworek
    “…If He loves us and wants us to be in Heaven with Him, why have Himself killed? …”

    I don’t think the “plan” was to have Himself killed. Being killed by evil humans was simply a consequence of evil. And it was known by God, from the beginning, that this would happen. But prediction is not causation (If I know my wife will order coffee at the tea shop, then my knowledge has not caused her to order coffee.)

    Go right back to the beginning, where God promises that the seed of the woman will crush the head of the serpent. It’s simply saying that a human (Jesus) will utterly destroy the kingdom of satan.
    The fast-forward to the hours before Jesus was murdered. He says:
    “NOW is the time for judgment on this world; NOW the prince of this world will be driven out.”
    ~John 12:31

    Was it just the crucifixion that destroyed satan? No.

    But the crucifixion did prove conclusively that God held nothing against humans. In fact, Jesus said PLAINLY, while being tortured: “Father, forgive them!…”
    He could call legions of Angels to save Him if He gave the command.
    Jesus ALLOWED humans to murder Him.

    So how then did the seed of the woman destroy the kingdom of darkness?
    It was the Resurrection that destroyed satan. Once Jesus displayed His power over death, He neutralised satan’s most powerful weapon, “…And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross…”(Col 2:15)

    The main objective of Jesus’ Incarnation was to destroy the works of darkness. (1Jh 3:8)

    Get that right, and everything else falls into place.
    Yes of course there are other consequences of the Victory of Jesus. But forgiveness of sins is not one of them. God never held our sins against us. He casts our sins away from us as far as the East is from the West. He covers them in the deepest seas. Even if our sins are scarlet, He makes them white as snow. The cross PROVES to us, it SHOWS US that God is not our enemy. If Jesus is the Son of God, then the cross PROVES that our sins are forgiven. but it does not CAUSE that forgiveness. This is a critical point. Study it carefully, and do not be deceived by poor English translations of the original languages.

    God does not hold grudges. His anger lasts a moment, but His love is everlasting. THAT NEVER CHANGES!

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14. Ethan Lee says:

    April 29, 2020 at 2:49 am

    TL;DR: Death is separation from God and is the price that must be paid for sin. Jesus died so that we wouldn’t have to, allowing a restored relationship between God and humanity.

    Romans 6:23 says, “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.”

    When we break the law, we pay a fine.

    In the same sense, when we sin we owe a fine. The difference is that Jesus paid that fine for us.

    So it’s as though you run a red light and the judge pays for your ticket out of his own pocket.

    But why death?

    A biblical overview of death requires a bit more depth than a Facebook comment can cover, but I’ll do my best.

    Sin creates a separation between humanity and God. God will not allow sin to persist in his presence, so when humanity chooses to sin, we choose to separate ourselves from God. Because God is the giver and sustainer of life (John 1:4), sin, by creating that separation, will eventually cause death. God no longer sustains a person’s life due to sin.

    This is not to say that, when we sin, we sign our death warrant. Going out and lying today doesn’t mean you’ll die tomorrow, but the root cause of death is sin.

    As humanity has progressed, we all sinned (Romans 5:3), meaning we have all established this “sin fine.” Sin is apart of our very nature at this point.

    Jesus died for us because the fine MUST be paid. You might say, “But can’t God just erase the fine?”

    No, because He won’t allow sin to persist in His presence. The relationship between humanity and God can only be restored once that sin fine is paid.

    Jesus died for us because the fine MUST be paid and His death on the cross was enough to pay the debt for all sin everywhere (ask me why).

    So, the judge paid for your fine out of his own pocket. Except here the crime was any sin you’ve ever committed, the fine was death, and the judge was God.

    Why death? Because death is separation from God. God allows death because humanity chose sin knowing what it would cost (Genesis 3:3).

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15. Kathy DeVoss says:

    April 29, 2020 at 4:04 am

    Sin sepatates man from God. The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ made a way for us to come back into fellowship
    He willingly, in obedience, lay down His life as propitiation for our sins. The blood of the perfect Lamb. I know this may not answer your question but Jesus did not commit suicide. He did not kill himself

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16. George Burrell says:

    April 29, 2020 at 4:36 am

    Dont look for logic

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17. Jesus Pascal Nnchedonna says:

    April 29, 2020 at 4:55 am

    The part I want to add is the fact that man is blemished with sin and can not pay for himself.

    So even if any man tries to appease God with his own blood it would be unacceptable.

    Then I have not read my Bible to a point where I see the reason why death is the penalty of sin.

    But I want you to know that the death of Jesus does more than forgiveness of sin.

    There is a part of reconciliation because every man is estranged from God in Adam.

    And there is this thought I am yet to establish solidly, “what is sin and salvation was part of God’s plan to destroy Satan that rebelled against Him?”

    But all in all, the matter is spiritually discerned. If it makes sense them it no longer the almighty God.

    God can never appeal to our senses because our senses has been distorted by sin.

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18. Rachel Draker- Rangel says:

    April 29, 2020 at 4:55 am

    You need to look at it from the Jewish perspective. Jews, as sinners, needed a sacrifice in order to cleanse sin. Jesus is the Messiah- He came to fulfill the Jewish Law and was the ultimate sacrifice to atone for all sin and bridge the gap between the Father God and us. He became human as Jesus to come down to our level to know us. He took on all the pain and suffering of the world during crucifixion so that our sin would no longer be a barrier to keep us from Him. He was the last sacrifice and once we repent of sin and accept Him as our Lord and Savior we no longer need a ritual or sacrifice to atone for our sins.

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19. Marcia Neisha says:

    April 29, 2020 at 6:18 am

    Alex kneel an tell Jesus u accept him as Lord an savor ask him to come into ur heart an remove all doubt an confusion use ur words wisely

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20. Aldrich Janelle says:

    April 29, 2020 at 6:24 am

    I suggest you read the first five books of Moses and learn about the sacrificial system. It is God’s courtroom not ours that judgement happens. It is by His rules and His system that everything we know exists in the first place. God tells us what and how but not always why. I also recommend a really good Bible teacher the Lord led me to. Tom Bradford of torahclass. com. The answers to questions you are asking take far too much explaining than this space can offer.

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21. Catalin Dragusin says:

    April 29, 2020 at 6:37 am

    He didn’t killed himself, it is a wrong way saying so, but He accepted, even though He has the power to reject, to be a sacrifice, for our fall.

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22. Sergio C Demetriou says:

    April 29, 2020 at 7:13 am

    Alex Tworek I think this a good question that can be a big stumbling block to people coming to the faith. I felt the exact same way you did 2 years ago, it almost caused me to leave my faith all together as I didnt have the level of faith to just take the quotes that many people have correctly listed in the comments above as the answer to this question. This logical reasoning really helped me understand, maybe it will assist you –

    1. First you need to accept that the wages of sin is death – I don’t know if this is a stumbling block for you. But the way i see it, no matter how small the sin is, if you put it in an eternal perspective you can always work your way to death, with any sin. I dont think this can really be proved or disproved so this point just needs to be accepted for arguments sake. Simple example being jealously, leads to confrontation and then pride leads to a war.

    2. To correct or improve the situation arising from sin someone always needs to make a sacrifice. In the war example above the obvious one is the innocent soldiers who go to protect their families. My Dad was a refugee from Cyprus as a result of war, he worked hard and sacrificed his life to improve our situation, and we all benefit from this and now can freely choose how to use the gift we have.

    3.The most extreme sacrifice you can make for someone is your life, i dont think that point really needs to be argued. Therefore God showed his love by sacrificing his life – but at a practical level what was the real world result of this? The apostles then gave their lives under the Roman rule to continue the gospel. Churches were started, countries were founded, constitutions were founded, hospitals were built, universities were built and charities thrived. People formed family units, tried to love their neighbour and build communities which supported eachother. This was only possible because of the example set by Jesus, because all of these things require great sacrifice to create, sometimes money, maybe time and sometimes even blood.

    I dont mean to start a separate debate on whether the world is better with or without christianity, I would without a doubt say that is obvious. However I think you will find that if you reflect on all the good things that would not exist had Jesus not set that precedent of giving your life for others, these bible verses will mean a lot more to you. Also as a side note, sin in greek means ‘missing the mark’, it is not an abstract thing which means ‘bad’, it means missing perfection, perfection here being God. So God is does not punish sin because he said sin needs to be punished, God knows that people choose sin (to not follow his ways) and he also knows for a fact that his ways are the only way to an eternal life with no pain.

    Hope this is helpful.

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23. MLu Undette says:

    April 29, 2020 at 8:56 am

    The wrath of God must be satisfied.

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24. Chris Lindsay says:

    April 29, 2020 at 8:59 am

    These are great questions Alex! They all deal with what’s called ‘the atonement’ which, until recently, hasn’t gotten a lot of attention by Christian theologians, so you’re not alone in your confusion.

    As one of the other responses you listed suggested, at issue here is two characteristics of God: His perfect justice, and His perfect love. God would be less than perfectly just if He just blinked at sin and forgave us without any consequences, so that isn’t an option if God is going to act in accordance with his nature. But being perfectly loving means God is merciful as well. So how does God both satisfy His justice and love?

    The predominant theory of the atonement is what’s called ‘penal substitution’, whereby Christ’s death satisfies God’s justice because the “wages of sin are death”. So by dying, Christ assumes the burden of our sins, punishment is meted out, and justice is served. Christ’s death also satisfies the love of God, since this was a voluntary act with the intention of sparing us punishment. God showed mercy to us in allowing Christ to take the punishment for our sins.

    As far as examples are concerned, I can think of two. First, there was actually a literary tradition in the ancient Greco-Roman world of innocent individuals giving up their lives for others. These people were viewed as heroes of the highest renown, rivaling even some of the more traditional hero archetypes based on violent conflict. (I can’t think of any specific stories off the top of my head, but if you’d like, I can look them up and get back to you). Second, there is an idea in modern legal philosophy and in our own justice system called ‘vicarious liability’, whereby one innocent party takes on liability for another party’s actions. For example, an employer in many cases can be held responsible for an employee’s actions. So this sort of thing isn’t entirely unheard of in either the ancient or modern world.

    If you’re interested in learning more, I’d recommend anything William lane Craig has on the atonement. Good stuff!

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25. Anna Dekan says:

    April 29, 2020 at 9:20 am

    God knew what it would entail to reconcile us to Him, even when He knew we would sin willfully, separating ourselves from His Presense. He knew we could never have the perfect apology, if you will, or defense. He allowed animal sacrifice to temporarily cover us, but the veil was still between us. He knew only His Son could be the only way for us to be reconciles. His perfect blood renews our blood, born again into divine and sinless personage, which we cannot be in our Holy God’s presence without. His ways are above any (hug, card)of what we think He could do. HOLINESS is the only way and Christ lived holy, died holy and rose in perfection to be the first born of us to return to God’s presence. Jesus makes us holy when we take Him and his sacrifice as our own.

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26. Raana W Rushdy says:

    April 29, 2020 at 9:56 am

    God is perfectly loving and perfectly just so the cross is where the two meat perfectly
    And because he is God and perfectly holy without any sin his death was enough for all of humanity

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27. Mark T. Grace says:

    April 29, 2020 at 10:03 am

    Because sin is of utmost importance to a Just God, sin results in death, so the payment is Death… God loves us so much that he provided the sacrifice as a payment, that is why it needs blood to cleanse it, but not just any blood, innocent blood, that is why Jesus died and rose again for our salvation…

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28. Ed Atkinson says:

    April 29, 2020 at 10:06 am

    Alex, great post. I think that human examples are available , such as offering a kidney to a sick relative and the danger of death. Or the ending of Dickens A Tale of Two Cities where a character dies in place of another one at the guillotine, if I remember it correctly.

    What these examples show, and comes out again and again in the answers above, is that external constraints are required to make it have any sense.

    Eg God can’t just forgive to satisfy some principle that someone suffers. Forgiveness only comes from shedding blood,etc etc.

    You rightly say that why can’t God deal with the constraints? He is God after all.

    I don’t think that there is an answer.

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29. Marc Smalley Collins says:

    April 29, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    It amazing you don’t even know how Jesus died; I’ll give you a hint, He didn’t commit suicide.

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30. Rene Chantraine says:

    April 29, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    I think before you ask that question you need to first read the Bible well and interpret it well, where in the Bible do you read that Jesus killed himself?

    Secondly, because you don’t understand who you are (a sinner ) is quite understandable that you cannot understand what you deserve (death), and because you lack the understanding of the two how can you understand why Jesus died and why He was raised from the death?
    You can try to use what you see in this world but the phisical cannot interpret the spiritual, the gospel of Christ is foolishness for those who stumble but it is the righteousness of God for those who believes!

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31. Lawrence Apitz says:

    April 29, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    we are all guilty of sin before God, the penalty for sin is death. we cannot pay the penalty or we would all be lost, Jesus paid it for us, he suffered for is. see Isaiah 53;4 that is why he had to die, one perfect atonement for sin had to be made for the sins of the whole world.

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32. Carl Moulton says:

    April 29, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    Greater love has no one but this….. they lay down their life for others.

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33. Donivan Felty says:

    April 29, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    This is going to be very short but I think the point is obvious.

    First off, God is righteous. This carries some real implications for those that seek to enter his presence. Primary among them is that God must judge anything that is not righteous.

    God’s standard for righteousness is himself. Which brings the question, why can’t God just lower the standard and remain righteous? In God’s economy, it appears that, if sin enters God’s presence, and he allows it, he basically becomes less righteous. What happens when a child’s dirty hands come into contact with a perfectly white towel? Only the towel is affected.

    So God has one payment for sin and that is perfection. The problem is, none of us are perfect. In fact we are full of filthy, vile sin.

    The person trying to enter heaven with only his works or good deeds is carrying filthy rags as his payment

    The savior lived that perfect life and died to pay the debt we owe. When we claim that payment as the full final and complete payment for sin, we have his righteousness imputed to us.

    Our response to that gift is eternal praise and gratitude to the one that made it all possible.

    I didn’t cover 1/1000th of the topic. But this explains why Christ voluntarily died a viscous brutal death to pay our debt.

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34. Jason Pax says:

    April 29, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    When you’re in a court and someone pays your fine you will pleaded not guilty. Thats what happen on that cross. He can do that which is legal and just, thats why before Jesus died, He cried out “it is finished” in other words the debt has been paid.

    He also came here on earth to show us the perfect faith that the Father wanted from us.

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35. Margaret Stevens says:

    April 29, 2020 at 2:39 pm

    I would go on line and listen to Charles Stanley’s answer to that question. It was the most clear accurate t answer I’ve heard. Don’t ol ow if we are to mention other pastors but if they are sound and can answer your question accurately at least better than I. Go for it we’re here to help one another as long as it is truth

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36. Margaret Stevens says:

    April 29, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    Probably one of the most asked question for bels and non believers and hope we all can explain it accurately and you understand. Great question I also dealt with that same question

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37. Corey Matthew says:

    April 29, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

    Christ died and took wrath as our substitute so we dont have to spend eternity in hell. It was the only way.

    For God SO loved the world.

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38. Ashley Offret says:

    April 29, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    He died for us as a sacrifice so we could overcome physical death and be cleansed of our sins and return to God. God knew that we would make mistakes, so he sent his Son Jesus Christ to suffer for our sins so that we wouldn’t have to. I hope that clarifies it, message me if you have other questions about it!

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39. Adejorin Abel says:

    April 29, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    It’s all started from Genesis

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40. MLu Undette says:

    April 29, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    Blessed be the Lord , the God of Israel, From everlasting even to everlasting. And let all the people say, “Amen.” Praise the Lord !
    Psalms 106:48 NASB

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41. Herb Van Schoick says:

    April 29, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    the gospel is foolish to those who are perishing…sorry

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42. Christine Farrar says:

    April 29, 2020 at 6:25 pm

    This will help

    https://youtu.be/G_OlRWGLdnw

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43. Jeff Altom says:

    April 29, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    You need to study what the word covenant means, the doctrine of substitutional atonement, covenant representation, and also covenant headship. Then you will understand. Without understanding those four topics one cannot understand the crucifixion of Christ, and the necessity of the event for mankind.

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44. PDel Cotnab says:

    April 29, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    because God requires death as payment for sins. For the wages of sin is death. We can not pay it ourselves. It is either we serve our punishment or someone would pay it in our behalf. No one can pay it because God demands a perfect sacrifice. That is what God’s law is. Jesus is the only one perfect because he is 100 percent God and 100 percent man. It is God’s plan of salvation that someone must die for sin!

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45. Brad Ryckman says:

    April 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Your first misunderstanding is G-d didn’t torture himself. Jesus isn’t G-d.

    You make it sound like Jesus committed suicide.

    You Never read the story of Issac willingly offering himself? Why did he do that?

    Or how about Moses baring the burden of the people?

    A true tzadik (righteous one) is not some tree hugging hippy lol.
    It’s one who sacrifices himself or something he loves for someone else.

    This is something we can do in our everyday lives, maybe you don’t understand this because you don’t do that.

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46. Ryan Costa says:

    April 30, 2020 at 9:19 am

    God is perfect, His plan is perfect, it was from eternity past and is for all eternity. He planned out and is in control of every detail of human existence from the smallest to the largest. Adam failed his role as first man, he rebelled against God causing death to come into being. God is perfect, perfect love, perfect judgment, perfect justice, perfect wrath. He would not be perfect if he does not cover the cost of the mistake The First Adam made. He sent Jesus Christ to come as The Second Adam to pay for sin and erase death for all eternity. Amen. God bless

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47. Steven Wells says:

    April 30, 2020 at 11:39 am

    He did not kill himself. Read acts 2. Sin requires death. Since you cannot rescue yourself he did. How do you pay for eternal wrath. Answer the blood of the lamb

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48. Francois W Prins says:

    April 30, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    Alex, do you live in the USA?

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49. Paul Brown says:

    April 30, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    Lots of questions here, and it’s not clear they are all very serious ones.

    Anyway, this can all be resolved by a couple of basic ideas or principles of Scripture that seem to have been overlooked.

    First, the principle of sin. Sin is lawbreaking. That is, breaking the Mosaic Law is sin. Jesus accomplished a life without breaking the Law of Moses — a life without sin.

    He was declared a sinner, a blasphemer, and crucified mainly for that reason.

    Secondly, Jesus was a man possessed of God’s Spirit. God didn’t kill Himself. That’s silly. Jesus accomplished all the prophecies about the Messiah who was destined to suffer and die even though He had done nothing worthy of death.

    As a result, death had no hold on Him, no right to keep Him in the grave. The Father raised Him to life.

    Additionally, the Law of Moses can be thought of as a contract or covenant. Once the terms of a contract — any contract — are met, the contract is no longer active. It is done, finished, accomplished.

    Does this help?

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50. Felipe Fuentes says:

    May 2, 2020 at 12:34 am

    So many layers, start with the old testament. Im willing to help you with your questions and maybe doubts. Feel free to message me. I have studied the bible i formal education thought id mention so if that helps with credibility

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