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If atheists don’t believe in Divine Providence, what do they believe? And how do atheists explain why evil exists?

40% of American Millennials identify as “No Religion”[1]. 89% of these Millennials believe that life evolved undirected[2]. In other words, they believe that faith in God is unnecessary to explain our existence – irrational even, relegated to children and old people. Nothing could be further fro…

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  1. Moon River says:

    We Cannot Stay Neutral, We Must Make A Choice. Either Eternal Condemnation Or Eternal Salvation. They Must Choose Betweee The Lamb Like Beast Or The Lamb That Was Slain From The Foundation Of The World; They Must Choose From The False Christ Or The True Christ .

  2. Matthew Kennedy says:

    You could just not have an opinion… Or have an opinion that doesn’t include a magical realm with magical beings. How about that?

    If you can’t understand the above concept, think about this, does the country Djibouti have more than 2 rivers? If you don’t know and don’t have an opinion and don’t just make something up and believe it without reason, welcome to rational thinking! If you do look it up, the moment before you look out up is what I’m talking about. Now I know that most theists can understand this concept normally, but some don’t see how it applies to things that they feel they personally know.

    This can be applied to evil, too. But… The question is more often asked; how can an all good, all powerful, all knowing being that is in all places at all times be consistent with evil existing?

    Wouldn’t God be inside the shooters mind as he pulls the trigger for mass murder? Wouldn’t he be in the finger too? And in the gun and the bullets?

    That’s probably the more rational question, but I can give you this, I’ll say it’s rational, but how is evil that is not caused by an entity such as a human consistent with an all good, knowing, loving, everywhere God? How is bone cancer in babies consistent?

    How is it that the God who is supposedly all good, created life in a way that it can only survive by killing other life? That doesn’t sound good at all…

    How can evil exist without an all good god? By comparing one thing to another and deciding which is more favourable. By knowing what is more favourable, we know what is less favourable. The less favourable outcome is more evil than the most favourable outcome (simplified for purposes of ease of expression).

    Does that make sense to you?

  3. Doug Larter says:

    Matthew Kennedy good video’s to watch.

  4. Larry Koester says:

    We are following the European trend in this. Its the logical outcome of the liberal attitude that resulted in our form of government and culture. The lingering of one might calm Christian capital of thinking and modify kept us from going off the deep end eariler, but we seem to have come to the end of that grace period.

  5. Chrys George says:

    A. https://www.facebook.com/notes/chrys-george/ballistics-any-long-gun-is-fairly-accurate/1757808107587854/.

    A young Virginia Royal, at the time; aide-de-camp to General Braddock. At the British defeat in the Battle of Monongahela near French Fort DuQuesne—now Pittsburgh—and how the Indian Chief Red Hawk claimed to have shot at Colonel Washington eleven times,[flintlock musket] but did not succeed in killing him.

    Being preserved in battle (Battle of the Monongahela; a Lt.–Col.) at his 23-years-of-age made General George Washington this praying Deist.

    One would think this strange, a praying Deist; but, is this Washington returning to his cradle Christianity?

    B. In the mainline Protestant Churches—the slim majority within the nation; old-Earth creationism—there is not a Hell, per se; are there levels of reward awaiting us in the everlasting life?

    1. Jesus Christ is called the First Fruits of the (general) resurrection. Heaven, is a holding place; then a new body, with eternal life on a New Earth. 1 Corinthians 15:20; 2 Peter 3:13.

    2. A fiery Hell in Scripture, is figurative. Hades in the Bible is a place where hard-unbelievers are destroyed; or, some say, the feeling of being separated from Unconditional Love God.

    a. The / My Orthodox Church; And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch (Acts 11:26), Greek west Syria.

    b. A metaphor. We are taught that the original Bible Greek (Mt 6:13; the Lord’s Prayer) ‘τοῦ πονηροῦ,’—‘evil one’ (Satan; the devil) is meant in most fundamentalist-Christian translations—is more correct to say ‘the evil, that is in the world;’ institutional disorder, dysfunction. Yes, there are fallen angels, demons. [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A13&version=KJ21.]

  6. Kelsey Haeger says:

    Hm, I love your questions and it seems like you might have a good idea of how to respond to atheists when they question God’s goodness because evil exists. How do you answer that in those moments? (if my assumptions that you have a good answer to this are correct!) Justin Goethe

  7. Mark Fonner says:

    You all should read the book, “The Rise of the Nones” by Dr James Emory White. Great book! It’s $11 on Amazon in paperback.

  8. Jeff Benjamin says:

    America has completely twisted the heart of the term “religion”. As for me, I stick to James 1:27 AMP “external religious worship [religion as it is expressed in outward acts] that is pure & unblemished in the sight of God is this: to visit & help & care for the orphans & widows in their affliction & need, & to keep oneself unspotted & uncontaminated from the world”

  9. Jerry Spencer says:

    Evil is simply people treating other people badly.

    What is divine providence?

  10. Roxy Wade says:

    The religion of you’re your own ‘god.’

  11. Duncan Macpherson says:

    Evil does not exist except as an absence of good. As Christians we are not dualists.

  12. Burt W Slater says:

    The best argument I’ve found (other than viblical… because they dont believe in it either) is:
    Do you believe dogs exist?
    Do you believe rocket science exists.
    Dogs have NO concept of rocket science, yet they both exist
    We gave no (real) concept of God (true eternity, true mercy etc) yet we both exist!
    He is to great for us mere humans to actually conceive…

  13. Chris Medlin says:

    As an atheist I’d just say some people do evil things. Evil doesn’t exist other than there are evil actions some people do.

  14. Larry Cambalos says:

    China do not recognise God so the result is corona virus, so all who will die of corona virus ate those who do not recognise God, corona virus is the curse telling those who do not recognise him that he exist, thats fact

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