???? Agee. The Truth Hurts. But good luck with That….

???? Agee. The Truth Hurts. But good luck with
That. Because people’s hate the truth. But,The Truth Remains The Truth.????

89 comments on ???? Agee. The Truth Hurts. But good luck with That….

  1. is it true tho? When Judas “left”, Matthias was chosen. And the bible account ends there. But the historical sources tell us that every apostle had a successor. So this image is not true

  2. There are still Apostles to this day!!! If there were not than the bible lied because it talks about the five fold ministry. There are still teachers preachers evangelist prophets and apostles.

  3. I agree that there are no more apostles of today but You forgot apostle Paul. He was not of the 12 because Matthias replaced Judas Iscariot (Acts 1:20-26) But apostle Paul has unique apostleship.

    Romans 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an APOSTLE, separated unto the gospel of God,

    Romans 11:13 KJV
    [13] For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the APOSTLE of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    1 Corinthians 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, called to be an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

    1 Corinthians 9:1-2 KJV
    [1] Am I not an APOSTLE? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord? [2] If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine APOSTLESHIP are ye in the Lord.

    2 Corinthians 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

    Galatians 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, an APOSTLE, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

    Ephesians 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

    1 Timothy 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

    1 Timothy 2:7 KJV
    [7] Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an APOSTLE, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

    Titus 1:1 KJV
    [1] Paul, a servant of God, and an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

  4. Barnabas and Paul called apostles. It wasn’t just the twelve. Clement of Rome and Jude were called apostles by the early Christians. Paul calls Epaphroditus an apostle.

  5. Apostle means “sent one”. Do you mean nobody is sent by God nowadays? That’s not true. Maybe you are not sent. But others are sent.

  6. I definitely disagree, but I believe this is meant as a jab to the Word of Faith movement. Many label themselves as prophets and apostles for show.

  7. What crap! I just cannot understand what pushes people to delve into domains and fields they are completely ignorant about!
    Apostles are discerned and benefitted from by those who are seeking genuinely for them!

  8. “Their unique place is based not only on having …. witnessed the resurrection, but also …. on having been commissioned and empowered …. by the resurrected Lord …. to proclaim the gospel to all nations.” – https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/apostle/ and the 12 Apostles (commissioned and chosen by God) are the 12 foundation stones of that which is shown in the visions given unto John the Beloved. – https://biblehub.com/revelation/21-14.htm

  9. This is obviously FALSE.

    How about Apostle Paul?

    How about the following verses

    Eph.4.11 – And he gave some, APOSTLES; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    Eph.4.12 – For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST:

  10. So you are saying God took back His promised gift to the “Church” to bring unity to the Body. Ephesians 4:11.
    Maybe Thant’s why we battle each other so hard over the doctrines of men.
    We’ve shut down the Apostle, killed God’s Prophets and practically silenced the Evangelist then combine Pastor/Teacher.
    Now we are being lead by men of vast vocabularies pushing man made doctrine creating a powerless church.
    Most people only believe what they are told to believe.
    Why would God leave us without the promise of unity and the means to achieve it?
    There has always been false prophets. Jesus warns us.
    Those self proclaimed Apostles shearing God’s Flock.
    Beware yes, but don’t neglect.

  11. I guess Mr. Peter’s isn’t up on his Bible reading. The NT lists about 17 apostles by name. The Holy Spirit seems to think Matthias replaced Judas. Paul and Barnabas are both referred to as Apostles and the NT makes no distinction between them. If there were only 12 then Eph. 4:11 isn’t true. If you read in context, which Mr. Peter’s has clealry missed, Jesus appointed the 12 prior to His crucifixion and resurrection. Eph. 4:11 refers to post ascension Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers.

  12. I check it out. As far as I could see, their is no other mention in the Bible about apostles outside the 12. Moreover some versions say to make disciples and this is not in the Greek either the Greet says to teach not make disciples. I might have missed something but this seems to be spot on.

  13. 100% wrong 100% Apostille means a sent one. The definition of an apostle (from the Greek apostolos) is “one who is SENT” or “one commissioned.” The term (pronounced uh POS ull ) appears more than 80 times in the New Testament. In Hebrews 3:1, the word was applied to Jesus Christ , who was SENT. by

    Apostle STRONG’;S G 652
    a delegate, messenger, one SENT forth with orders
    A. specifically applied to the twelve apostles of Christ
    B. in a broader sense applied to other eminent Christian teachers
    i. of Barnabas
    ii. of Timothy and Silvanus

    John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

    29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath SENT.

    Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be SENT? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

  14. Hey, stop that Peters. Bad boy. Down. Hey, the pay scale has alread been set: Pope – Cardinal – Bishop – Apostle – Pastor – Evangelist – Deacon. Are you suggesting that the category be eliminated? Now we’ve got to figure out if the Apostles are going to have to take a pay cut, or the Pastors are all going to get a raise.

  15. Utter rubbish … Ephesians 4:11 – jesus gave apostles – or messengers, as did God, I Corinthians 12:28, – utter heresy

  16. May I please remind us that Paul was also an Apostle. That Justin Peters is wrong. With all due respect Ray J Bazil. The office of the Apostle is still relevant in this day and age just as is the Prophet, Teacher, Evangelist and Pastor for the equipping of the saints then in the 1st century upto now in the 21st century. Till the body is made completely ready for the return of Christ.

  17. BS.. l know a few myself.. where does your Doctrine come from.. no where does it say in Scripture that the apostles died out.. just like the prophets, there were prophet schools and there were apprentice prophets and apostles.. who have carried on Through the Ages

  18. Justin is incorrect! Notice that in Acts 2 they named an Apostle to replace Judas that is 13 and how about the Apostle Paul, he was number 14!

  19. built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. Ephesians 2:20

  20. The foundation of the Apostles, even though their were more, there were 12 on which the foundation was laid

  21. ^_^ I agree for the present aera. But just for the record, discounting Judas Iscariot, there were other Apostles as well, like Paul and James… Ü (y)

  22. How Many Apostles Are Named in the New Testament?
    October 26, 2019
    And He Himself gave some to be apostles….
    — Ephesians 4:11 NKJV

    Today we continue our study of the word “apostle.” By the time of the New Testament, the word apostolos was already an old word with quite a lengthy history. It carried many shades of meaning — all of which overlapped each other and were interrelated, as we have seen. So when people in the Early Church heard or read the word “apostle,” it is likely that they understood an apostle to be a person who was specially selected, commissioned, and sent by the Lord to represent Him for the purposes of the Kingdom: to build up, draw forth, speak out, align, govern, strengthen, and establish His Church as His unique agent on the earth.

    Early believers were also probably aware that the apostle was a pioneer and a chief overseer, responsible for opening up new territory, both physically and spiritually, for Kingdom purposes. They would have known him as one who provided passage from one spiritual dimension to another as he took a church to new levels in its spiritual growth that it could never reach apart from the apostolic anointing.

    Believers recognized the apostle as one who had the anointing, authority, and spiritual backing to get things accomplished for the furtherance of God’s purposes. He wasn’t just the implementer of pragmatic ideas and strategies. Rather, a true apostle carried within him supernatural insight and revelation that was vital for the growth and the building up of the Church.

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    Over the centuries, the question “Who is a true apostle?” has been something of a theological conundrum for many scholars. Some insist that only the original 12 were true apostles, whereas others argue that the apostolic ministry has continued since the death of Jesus’ original 12 apostles. But let me give you a concise way of looking at this subject.

    In Luke 6:13, Jesus called together His disciples and from among them, He chose 12 men whom He called apostles. They are listed by name in Matthew 10:2-4. In Luke 9:1-6, Jesus sent forth these 12 apostles to preach the Gospel, heal the sick, and cast out demons. But in the next chapter, Jesus appointed 70 more people and “…sent them (apostolos) two by two…” (Luke 10:1).

    When Judas died, Acts 1:25,26 tells us that Matthias was chosen to take his place among the original apostles. Paul was also an apostle, as he testifies of in multiple places throughout the New Testament.

    So the Greek word apostle is used to describe the original 12, another group of 70, plus Matthias and Paul — and then 11 others:

    Apollos (see 1 Corinthians 4:6-13)
    Epaphroditus (see Philippians 2:25; “messenger” is apostolos in the Greek)
    James, the Lord’s brother (see Galatians 1:19)
    Barnabas (see Acts 14:4,14; 1 Corinthians 9:5,6)
    Andronicus (see Romans 16:7)
    Junia (see Romans 16:7)
    Titus (see 2 Corinthians 8:23; “messenger” is apostolos in the Greek)
    An unnamed brother with Titus (see 2 Corinthians 8:18,23)
    Another unnamed brother with Titus (see 2 Corinthians 8:22,23)
    Timothy (see 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2:6)
    Silas (see 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2:6)
    If you were to take the entire list of those who were sent forth apostolically in the New Testament, there are at least 83 people in the New Testament who are called “apostles.” All of this makes it very clear that apostolic ministry has continued beyond the original 12 apostles. Just as prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers have continued for 2,000 years, the apostolic gift has also continued; it has simply been more or less unrecognized.

    You may wonder why this information is relevant to you personally and to the Church at large today. But consider it this way: If the Scriptures reveal that there was a multiplied increase in the apostolic ministry in the Early Church — from 12 to 83 — who were called apostles, how much more will Jesus Christ continue to give this gift to men for the purpose of building His Church?

    And this would be especially true in these last days before Jesus returns! Great preparation and equipping is taking place in the Church to prepare all of us as end-time believers to be His bold, sold-out, Holy Spirit-empowered witnesses on this earth before He comes. We as a Body need to receive the powerful benefits given to us by God through the operation of the apostolic anointing!

    This post is not correct in many ways. First of all the New Testament records more than 12 Apostles and the same people playing there are none today. If they’re not even right according to scripture how could they be right about today? Obviously they’re wrong on both counts.

  23. Paul was an apostle
    His letters Romans to Philemon are called the GOSPEL
    13 apostles
    5 gospels

    12 apostles and 4 gospels to non but the lost sheep of Israel teaching the law

    1 apostle 13 letter gospel to the Gentiles revealing the gift of salvation by grace through faith

  24. apostles with a small A. He’s right in that even though Paul was an apostles his name is not mentioned on the four gates mentioned in revelation. Only the twelve are there.

    Apostles with a capital a are no more as the canon of the Word of God is closed and sealed by John the Beloved.

  25. If true Apostles are alive can they heal at will, do miracles without waiting on God to confirm them? That’s just one of requirements.

  26. Apostle is just a term for sent-ones. You can try to define it, but the Bible itself doesn’t do that specifically. Really it’s anybody sent as a missionary.

  27. It sounds Holy, but it isn’t technically correct and only continues the confusion between the 12 and apostles. Junia is listed as a female apostle in Romans and certainly wasn’t one of the 12. Apostle simply means sent out one.

  28. Acts 14:14 Barnabas; Gal.1:9, James; by definition John the baptist. There is the 12, however, a careful look shows that Paul was not so limited in his use of the term. Also, there was Matthias (Acts 1:25,26), which with Paul would have made 13?

  29. Not sure why people argue about this.

    I enjoy superhero stuff, and I hear people argue the details of hero’s origin stories a lot.

    Hate to draw that parallel but I’m trying to make a point. This seems truly pointless to argue.

    “Every kingdom divided amongst itself is brought to desolation” – i think a famous person said that.

  30. As long as the era of the Church remains and the gospel has not moved to Jews in Israel, what the Holy Spirit has written in scriptures remain. The word apostle come from a Greek word SENT. Today we still have Missionaries being sent all over the world for the work of the gospel. Infact they are more required now than before the glory of the latter Church is required to be higher.

    Hag 2:9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.

  31. Their were more people called apostles than the 12 to be fare.

    But, I think he’s referring to be who say they have special revelation.

  32. Ephesians 4:11-12 that reads, “And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ.” The five-fold ministry has usually been defined as the church leadership ministry that consists of: (1) apostles, (2) prophets, (3) evangelists, (4) pastors (shepherds), and (5) teachers.

  33. So, when Judas Iscariot betrayed the 11 and died, why did they appoint another apostle? Why was it important to keep all 12?

  34. They – and their amazing gifts – are gone. But we have the Holy Spirit and complete scripture. What more do we need? No signs and wonders necessary – apart from the greatest wonder if all – the new creation.

  35. Revelation 21:14
    “And the wall of the city has twelve foundations, and on them are the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”

  36. It’s #wrong #doctrine

    –If you see acts 1-25-26
    The 12th apostle is replaced by JUDAS

    In galatians 2:7, 8, 9
    Apostle paul, and peter are also apostles
    Paul is 13th apostle and peter is 14th apostle from galatians 2nd chapter 7, 8, 9 verses

    If you see romans 16:7

    Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
    Romans16:7

    Andronicus and Junia,are also apostles

    Please open your bibles and read carefully you will know the truth.

    In holy bible there are other apostles other than 12 apostles

  37. If there are still pastors there are still apostles. Show me a scripture that shows withdrawal of an office? In the Old testament there were Priest,Prophet and King. The new has fivefold. The 12 are foundational and names written on 12 thrones so no one is denying there aren’t others like them but this does not prove there aren’t apostle. Aren’t you not aware that the APOSTLE Paul is not one of the 12?

  38. This is called the Cessionist view , & it’s ok .Do I agree ? No, but the important part is do you love God , & who is Jesus ? Do you have the love of God in your heart. As believers it’s some things we can disagree on , but other things we can’t. It’s certain things you can believe that will make you unchristian.

  39. You can inbox me anytime & we can dialogue about John MacArthur , Hank Hanegraff , Justin Peters , & the Cessionist view? I’m not just an Apologists , I’mma full-gospel Apologist.

  40. Yesterday I did our ministries Bible study & the topic was , The Love of God. This element is highly needed in the world , in this present season

  41. Not true.if you believe in Bible you can’t deny the office of Apostels.the office is still active and working.

  42. Better to study the works or office of the apostles. Then compare it to the apostles of today…

  43. The so called gospel of justin peters is a statement coming from him alone! ??? God’s Words.
    He definitely needs to back that statement of his with God’s Words ??? his own!

  44. Yes the office of the prophets and Apostles stands but the apostles quota has been filled agree and that office is to equip the saints to do the work of the ministry but these guys put themselves on pedestals and demand human worship for themselves who else does this remind you of?

  45. If they are not anymore Apostles , nor prophets , they’re not any Pastors , Evangelist , nor teachers either .

  46. One of the Biggest misinterpretation of Bible and one of the biggest blindness Christians are following is this… There is absolutely no Biblical support to the argument that only the first 12 were Apostles and we cannot be Apostles. In fact Bible asks us to follow this sequence for growing in Christ

    Born Again=> Disciples => Apostles => Priesthood

    Bible even asks ya to be Priests for Christ offering Living Sacrifice of ourselves… but sadly Christians are still stuck at definition and meaning of Apostles.

    Please read your Bible, go to 1 Corinthians 12:28 and try to understand that verse under the guidance of Holy Spirit… I pray for wrong teachings to be removed from
    Believers… ??

  47. The apostles were for the proclamation of the gospel and the miracles were the proof, everyone else is just a preacher or a christian.

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