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I’m kind of struggling with this; What is your thoughts on this scripture?

1 Peter 2:8, [KJV](http://www.christianbook.com/page/bibles/translations/kjv?navcat=Bibles%7CTranslations%7CKJV): “And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, *even to them* which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.”

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  1. John Camara says:

    Double predestination?

  2. Larry Koester says:

    Natural man thinks he is good enough as he is. God’s work ofends him by telling him, he is doomed only to hell by nature and that makes tim angry. But it idms a truth we needs to accept before we will be open to what God has to gave. athat ulis why saving faith is a gift, man on his own is too.proud both in his own goodness or evil to yellield to God. God is speaking to human pcychology here becaudse that is how man reacts but it goes much deeper. There is more than one way.to understand what he is saying there at the end aBut by birth, because we arw dead in.sin we are appointed to damnation, but God can over rule that. But there is also the teaching of Predestination. That one we can not know. But we can have confidence ib his love.

  3. John Camara says:

    1 Peter 2:8

    New International Version
    and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message–which is also what they were destined for.

    New Living Translation
    And, “He is the stone that makes people stumble, the rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they do not obey God’s word, and so they meet the fate that was planned for them.

    English Standard Version
    and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

    New American Standard Bible
    and, “A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE”; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.

    King James Bible
    And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

    Christian Standard Bible
    and A stone to stumble over, and a rock to trip over. They stumble because they disobey the word; they were destined for this.

    Contemporary English Version
    They disobeyed the message and stumbled and fell over this stone, because they were doomed.

    Good News Translation
    And another scripture says, “This is the stone that will make people stumble, the rock that will make them fall.” They stumbled because they did not believe in the word; such was God’s will for them.

    International Standard Version
    a stone they stumble over and a rock they trip on.” They keep on stumbling because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

    NET Bible
    and a stumbling-stone and a rock to trip over. They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

    New Heart English Bible
    and, “a stone to stumble over, and a rock to trip over.” For they stumble at the word, being disobedient, to which also they were appointed.

    Aramaic Bible in Plain English
    He is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, and they stumble on it, in that they do not obey the word, for they are appointed to this.

    GOD’S WORD® Translation
    a stone that people trip over, a large rock that people find offensive.” The people tripped over the word because they refused to believe it. Therefore, this is how they ended up.

  4. Steven Wells says:

    The key here is predestination

  5. Emanuel Mullen says:

    The word “stumbled” can mean tripping and falling, or it can mean taking offense at or rejecting something or someone. Peter explain that the people stumble because they do not listen to God’s word or obey it. This disobedience refers not to a slipup by someone who tried to obey; rather it means outright rejection of the Word and the Messiah that the Word promised, and a rebellious stance toward God. Some stumbled over Christ because they reject Him or refuse to believe that He is who He claims to be. They have stumbled over the one person who could save them., and they have falling into God’s hands for judgment.

  6. Somes Jm says:

    The cross of Christ stumbling block to the jews and foolishness to the gentiles

  7. Madison Willoughby says:

    Backing up to verse 7 “Then to you who believe belongs the honor. But to disobeying ones, He is the Stone which those building rejected-this One became the Head-of-the corner, and a stone-of-stumbling, and a Rock-of-offense to those disobeying, stumbling at the word, to which they were also appointed.”

    Here’s how I understand this verse; Peter begins by telling those who believe in Christ that honor belongs to them. Then he goes on to speak of those who were also appointed to believe but instead of building a life of faith they let Jesus become offensive to them. As a result, they became the disobeying ones.

    Hope this helps.

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