LUKE 16:23-24 IT SAYS THAT both Lazarus the poor and the rich was in hades it so happen that there is a chasm that seperate the wicked from the righteos. So meaning to say if we die we all go to hades and because there is a compartment for the wicked to be in agony and a compartment for the righteous to be peace right? So meaning we will wait there until the final judgment or the second coming of Christ? What can you say about this???
you are confusing tbe zgreek after life with what Scripture is really saying. We don’t really understand the complex of heaven and hell, because none of us do we aren’t told enough to leave it at what you are claiming.
This is only a parable that should not be taken literally altogether. This parable could just be telling us that there is no turning back when we are already in the after life. We can no longer have a change of heart to go to heaven, and we no longer have the chance to share salvation to others when we are physically dead. Moreover, in the New Testament, the word Hades usually refers to disembodied existence and may not refer to a specific place at all.
There are many other places in the Bible where we can see what will happen to us when we die.
The chasm separates Judah/chosen from God. This parable is about the grafting.Not about heaven or hell.
This is NOT a parable. It is a true account of real people.
This describes the situation BEFORE Jesus died for our sins. One of the things Jesus did while His body was in the grave is lead the people like Abraham and Lazarus up out of that temporary holding place to heaven.
Today that compartment is empty.
How do you come to the point that it is not a parable Art Ellingsen? Verse 1 and verse 19 opens in the similar manner, so please clarify your position.
There are about 38 or so parables in the New Testament. None of the others name anyone. This account names two specific people, Lazarus and Abraham. This is not introduced as a Parable. Therefore it is a true account. About half the Christian Theologians consider this a parable. The rest of us don’t.
Abraham’s Bosom was where the Righteous dead went. Its empty now. Die as a Christian, then with the Lord.
Before Jesus paid the ultimate price, people went to Hades/Abraham’s Bossom but now that it is paid. Unbelievers still goes to Hades whilst the believers is now in Heaven.
Do you have any supporting scripture because Sheol means the realm of the dead.
Thanks a lot I learn that this is not a parable because there are two names that been mentioned. I believe that righteous people will now go to Jesus and he emptied the bossom.
Well to be fair, it doesn’t say the rich man was wicked, nor does it say Lazarus was righteous.
All it says is that there is a role reversal in the afterlife. IE it says the rich man received good things in his life and now has bad things, while Lazarus received bad things but now receives good things. So we know it’s about role reversal.
That is because the parable is a retelling of common folk tales along the same theme. IE role reversal in the afterlife
So Jesus is using this folk tale to rebuke the Pharisees, basically saying that while they think they are the favoured of God, in actual fact it’s those they despise that are the true favoured of God.
It’s a masterful rebuke, but it also means the parable is not about the afterlife at all.
It just isn’t.
Too much of the parable is embellished to be taken as literal. The first clue is that it’s set in z Hades, the Greek mythological underworld named after the Greek god Hades. That should be enough right there to tell you it’s not actually real as it’s borrowing from Greek mythology.
So don’t read it as literal please, that would be to completely miss the point of the narrative.
Hades = death…Yes before the sacrifice of the Lamb of God people’s souls where divided.
Lazarus was before believers recieve the Holy spirit…
Also hades is the place of tge dead…no compartments
Gehenna is hell where those goes whos names arent in the book of life…
To all whom has recieved the Holy spirit,its the seal of the Lamb ,there is no more death
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