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I am For truth and Against error.
That’s all.

Here are 19 questions:
Calvinism answers No,
but Scripture says Yes!

1. Does God want to save everyone?
Yes.
“Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God , I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?”
Ezekiel 33:11 (and all of Ez.18)

2. Is God willing to save everyone?
Yes
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, ?not willing that ANY should perish?, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9

3. Does God “draw” people gently in love without irresistible force?
Yes.
“The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.”
Jeremiah 31:3

4. Can we resist His will?
Yes.
“Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye DO always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.”
Acts 7:51

5. Does Christ want to save those who resist?
Yes.
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!”
Matthew 23:37, Luke 13:34.

6. Did Christ pay for everyone’s sins and not for believers only?
Yes.
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
1 John 2:1‭-‬2

7. Did Christ REALLY pay for everyone? Even people who deny him?
Yes.
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, ?even denying the Lord THAT BOUGHT THEM,? and bring upon themselves swift destruction.”
2 Peter 2:1

8. Did Christ even pay for Judas?
Yes.
“Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life ?for his friends.?”
John 15:13
“And while he yet spake, lo, JUDAS, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.”…. “And Jesus said unto him, ?Friend,? wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus, and took him.”
Matthew 26:47, 26:50

9. Do people make their own choice to reject Christ, and are they free to change their mind?
Yes. Yes.
“For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes THEY have closed; lest AT ANY TIME they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”
Matthew 13:15

10. Is “knowing God, loving God, hearing His voice, and obeying Him” an actual choice that people have the ability to make?
Yes.
“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE LIFE, that both thou and thy seed may live: ?That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him?: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.”
Deuteronomy 30:19‭-‬20
(see 30:15-20)

11. Can people turn to God before they’re allegedly “regenerated” and born again?
Yes.
“And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, ?which worshipped God,?heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul. And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.”
Acts 16:14-15

12. Did Jesus himself tell people who are “Not His Sheep” that they COULD become believers??
Yes.
“Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.”…..”If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, ?though ye believe not me, BELIEVE THE WORKS:? that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.”
John 10:25:26….10:37‭-‬38

13. Can people actually intervene in God’s supposedly immutable predetermined roster of salvation recipients?
Yes.
“But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for YE shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, ?neither suffer ye them that ARE entering to go in.?”
Matthew 23:13

14. Wait! Did these Pharisees actually SUCCEED at preventing people from entering heaven?? people who would have otherwise entered?
Yes.
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and WHEN he is made, YE make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”
Matthew 23:15

15. So, people actually CAN make decisions without God predetermining and foreordaining them?
Yes.
“They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:”
Jeremiah 19:5 (also Jer. 7:31, 32:35)

16. So God DID give humanity the ability to make choices AGAINST His will??
Yes.
“Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.”
Ecclesiastes 7:29
“And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.”
Genesis 11:5‭-‬6

17. That means God acts in response to OUR free choice?
Yes.
“And the Spirit of God came upon Azariah the son of Oded: And he went out to meet Asa, and said unto him, Hear ye me, Asa, and all Judah and Benjamin; ?The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.? Now for a long season Israel hath been without the true God, and without a teaching priest, and without law. ?But when they in their trouble did turn unto the Lord God of Israel, and sought him, he was found of them.?”
2 Chronicles 15:1‭-‬4

18. So, we might be free to make “some” decisions according to our own will, but is there any evidence that we can choose for ourselves to accept and receive the Gospel??
Yes!
“And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, SAVE YOURSELVES from this untoward generation.” ?Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”?
Acts 2:40-41

19. Then… is it TRUE that Christ really did die for every last person on earth without exception???
YES!!
“For by him were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS were created by him, and for him:”
Colossians 1:16
“And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.”
Colossians 1:20

The debate about “All without distinction VS All without exception” is over. There’s nowhere else to go. Paul just exhausted the language. Every single thing on earth and in heaven was made by Jesus and for Jesus. Every single thing is either visible or invisible. Nothing is excluded. He died for every person he made!

Read Colossians 1:16-1:20.
he created ALL THINGS without exception.
he is before ALL THINGS without exception.
by him ALL THINGS consist without exception.
in him ALL fullness dwells without exception.
he died for ALL THINGS without exception!

The only person Christ DIDN’T die for, is a person who doesn’t exist. A person not made by him, nor made for him. A person not in heaven or earth. A person not visible, but also not invisible either. A person not created! Those are the qualifications set forth by this passage. Such a person is nowhere to be found.

Therefore, if the calvinists will not let go of their irresistible grace, and admit that everyone is free and able to accept or reject the blood of Christ, then THEY become the universalists. Because the “all things” that Christ made is the same “all things” that Christ died for. They CANNOT have it both ways. If irresistible grace is true, then universalism is true and calvinism fails. If universalism is false, then they MUST give up irresistible grace, or else Paul was wrong.

Paul just said Jesus provided this reconciliation by means of his blood on the cross. His blood is not necessary to send anyone to hell. It is only necessary to declare someone righteous and cleanse their sins. Therefore salvation must be openly available for every last person on earth.

Christ chose everyone and opened the door for everyone to be saved. He truly does “stand at the door and knock”.

Regardless of how some people may feel about “man’s freedom and ability to choose Christ”… There is no narrative which brings more glory and honor to Christ than His OWN narrative. God has sovereignly chosen to make salvation available for EVERYONE, and anyone who wants it can have it. THAT was His decision And He has the right to make such a decision. Calvinism limits God’s sovereignty and says He is unable to do that.

Calvinism is false.

Discussion

40 comments

  1. James Zozzaro says:

    According to Scripture no one seeks God, no not one. all are dead in their trespasses and sins and thus unable because unwilling to come to Christ in repentance and faith. This is why Jesus said you must be born again . if the only difference between someone in heaven and someone in hell is something they did wholly on their own then they have something to boast of yet Paul states that we have nothing to boast of in regard to our salvation because it is purely by God’s grace. Just because your mind cannot understand how God can be sovereign and man still responsible does not make it untrue. just because God’s ways are not your ways does not make him unjust. Just because the secret things if God belong to Him alone and He has not seen fit to reveal them to you does not mean He is unjust or not sovereign. Be careful you are standing close to Blasphemy in accusing God of being unjust if he elects whom he will.

  2. Adam Daniel Broughton says:

    “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.”

    John 17:12

    You don’t believe this verse refers to Judas? If it does, which I think it does (it certainly applies to someone) it seems to pull the rug out from underneath your conclusion.

    How do you feel about the book of Romans? I’m going to go through the post later to consider more of these points, but a cursory glance shows that you haven’t referenced it at all here. I am confident I could challenge the majority of these points from that book alone, I may attempt it.

    As I’m sure you’re well aware, a verse out of context is a pretext for a proof text. These verses that you have posted serve your points well in and of themselves, but these verses are not to be considered out of context of the entirety of scripture.

  3. Rizaldy S. Menor says:

    Brother permission to copy and paste to my group…thanks.

  4. Grace Williams says:

    Calvinist is false. Agreed. What’s more, many Calvinists share the same traits when challenged – they get angry and very aggressive.

  5. Grace Williams says:

    I suppose you guys who are professing Calvinists disagree with this ?

  6. Mong Santiago says:

    I don’t see anything humorous/funny in the OP. The 2 lads who “laugh reacted” were booted out of the group

  7. Greg Burgess says:

    Please give your definition of Calvinism.

  8. Iroh Chuks says:

    One of the best piece of short accurate theology which I have read in a long time . With kind permission. I am sharing this to as many that needs to hear this.WELL DONE

  9. Grace Williams says:

    Joshua 24
    15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, CHOOSE you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

  10. Jerry Basiao says:

    Your first point is already wrong. Mat 7:13-14 KJ2000 13 Enter in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be who go in there: 14 Because narrow is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it.

  11. Madison Willoughby says:

    Way to go Nick! God bless you for sharing truth!

  12. Manfred Boensch says:

    1. Does God save everyone?
    Do you save, or does God save?

  13. Brandon Chapman says:

    The Bible is just one big contradiction

  14. Layefa Max says:

    The only correct information about Calvinism is that
    it is VERY VERY FALSE.

  15. David Buyna says:

    Having decided to follow Jesus is work according to the bible; it is faith based and cannot be boast of. Yet it is through that action that you find salvation. From which you can turn away. Can God intervene for His purpose absolutely. But I believe there will be more people in hell that don’t want to be there then there are people in heaven that don’t want to be there. In fact I believe there will be no one in heaven that don’t want to be there.

  16. Nedson K. Banda says:

    You have forgotten that God is Almighty. He cannot fail what He plans. If God planned and is willing to save everyone but you know many were and are and will not be saved. This makes God of limited power, who plans fail to accomplish His plans. That is not the God of the Bible. Biblical God is not limited God he accomplishes what he plans. No creature can resist his power.

  17. Yokoju Alfred says:

    Consider context of a text before picking a fight that you may lose.

  18. Jeff Finster says:

    The way I view this subject… all have been bought at a price. Therefore all belong to God. Every man lives and dies to Him. There are none who exist or have existed or will exist that are not His from before the foundations of the world. There are two universal men… Adam (the first)and Yeshua (the last). Both “are so” by God’s determination from before the foundations were laid.

    In the first all men are to begin with. Living souls. Throughout all time the Word of God is and was and would come. There is the Life giving Spirit who is the last… there, in the fullness of time. Yeshua Messiah. From the first the last was brought forth. The first and the last are One in Him… the Word made flesh and blood. The Word is of Him to whom all things belong, fashioned for Him who was destined to come. He is this day seated at the right hand of Him by whom He was sent.

    Now, behold Him on the tree in His flesh that was dead and say, “…there is my sin…”. Watch now as He was placed in a tomb and say, “…there is my sin put away…”. Now look where He is this very day and say, “…my Lord, here am I. What now?…”.

    He says, “… follow me and I will show you. I will take from what is mine and give it to you. Because I live you will live also…”.

    Well… why do we hesitate?

  19. Ashley Moore says:

    Perfect example of what it looks like to trust a tradition over exegesis!

  20. Martha Coffa says:
  21. Manfred Boensch says:

    3. Please confirm that God’s drawing is not irresistable.

    I too have scripture:
    And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.
    John 10:16 ESV
    Do you believe that all people are not sheep.

    Jesus knows who His sheep are, not who will become His sheep.
    Those who are destined to be His sheep KNOW HIS VOICE and will be part of the sheepfold.

    If you are a sheep how can you resist it? Either you are or you are not.

    There are also goats who every single one of them believed they chose the Lord and they did so many things in His Name, and he will say to them, “get away from me you evildoers, FOR I NEVER KNEW YOU.
    You don’t get to know God because you choose to know Him. This is God were talking about. You get to know God when He reveals Jesus Christ to you (sheep) as your Lord and Savior.

  22. Jesse Johnson says:

    Affirmative

  23. Manfred Boensch says:

    4. Could Pharaoh resist God’s will?
    Could Judas?

    Do all atheists resist His will?

    Do you pray: Your will be done?
    One thing I do know, is that you make fleshy choices and walk in the flesh then you are thwarting His will.
    But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
    Galatians 5:16‭-‬18 ESV

  24. Jacob Wiemelt says:

    Clayton Hutchins – enjoy

  25. Manfred Boensch says:

    12. Taken from context.
    Goats do not become sheep.

    All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
    Matthew 11:27 ESV
    https://bible.com/bible/59/mat.11.27.ESV

  26. Manfred Boensch says:

    5. Does Christ save everyone or only those given Him by the Father?

  27. Kevin Akampurira Muheru says:

    Can God create square circles???

  28. Mazi Godwin Anthony says:

    I need more explanation on number 4

  29. Mazi Godwin Anthony says:

    I need more explanation on number 4

  30. Anthony Delmedico says:

    Grace is always the vehicle to one’s acceptance of Christ. It’s a gift, not of our own merit, but of His kindness and love. A gift can be received, but not by force. We can do nothing apart from God, yet this doesn’t somehow remove our individual choice. Man is evil from the womb, but being made in God’s image, we can choose the good. And once we do, God’s grace draws us to obedience.

  31. Julie Jones says:

    Amen brother amen
    God is JUST
    He would be unjust to save some and not others
    Faith to believe is a gift of God

  32. Victor Van Der Woude says:

    I think the simple answer is it’s more complicated than that.

  33. Emmanuel Montoro says:

    I appreciate the time and effort you put into these questions it really opens the door for people to look into deeply

    Great questions, good job!

  34. Joe A Smith says:

    Is Jesus God ?
    Yes God in Flesh , Jesus taught Monergism not Synergism.
    The Op fails

  35. Josiah Santana says:

    The only thing that you seem to miss, and I love all you’ve said, but the thing that makes some of the points from the “other” side seem viable is the Spirit of Prophesy. If God says, “In the end, a beast shall arise and bring harm to my people…” How can a beast arise without people to help the system in harming the people of God? Someone HAS to fill in those shoes. Same with every prophesy. THEY MUST BE FULFILLED. No deviation. No will to do otherwise. For the most part, free will to choose is real but predestination is just as real if not more to the point, for the Spirit of Prophesy is the Testimony of Jesus Christ. Whatever God has said WILL come to past and no man can stop it!
    For example, the Two Witnesses HAVE to come. They can’t wake up one day and say, “naw, I think I’m going to live my own life and do what I please. Forget about prophesy.” If it is written it must be fulfilled!!!!

  36. Peter Ferlin says:

    freewiller really, still claiming.. that you have a part on the work of Salvation of God…your own free will… than God allow you to understand the necessity of the Gospel that’s why you can’t resist the offer of God, His SALVATION… (that God regenerate you first before you can say ” i believe”). you like to put in the equation of salvation the word (i, myself, my freewill) while in the Golden Chain of Salvation Romans 8:28-31, there is no “my own freewill” there.. only predestined (elect), calling, justification, sanctification and glory… freewillers saw only the reaction of the creature, but not, or want to accept the FIRST action of GOD in creature so that he(creature) would react to believed by his own will.. DON’T SNATCH THE GLORY OF GOD’S WORK, by putting yourself in the equation of SALVATION..

  37. Peter Ferlin says:

    to those who claim that there is no truth in calvanism (TULIP) BIBLICALLY SPEAKING… FIND IF NOT ALL TRUE…. READ AND STUDY FIRST BEFORE YOU accuse….may be your telling some lie by saying no truth in it..

  38. Peter Ferlin says:

    MY LAST…. thanks to God for the sharing of thoughts from my co brother in Christ…may the lord our God bless as all.

    add to your study if your really looking for truth…. https://www.crcna.org/welcome/beliefs/confessions https://www.the1689confession.com https://www.gty.org/library/articles/BRG-90-20/election-and-predestination-the-sovereignty-of-god-in-salvation https://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/attributes-god/

  39. Justin Garcia says:

    One thing to think about in the Calvinism versus Arminianism debate is that both have to defend election because the Bible teaches it. Even if you do not believe in Calvinism you still have to answer the question why did God create a world in which men can go to hell? If God knew that man would use his free will to choose this then why did he still allow it? Even if you believe in free will namely that man can choose God why did God create a world in which people choose otherwise?

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