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Might want to look up the word “church” in Greek since that is where it was originally written…
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The Christians converted pagan and polytheist temples into Christian churches.
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It’s wrong.
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Wrong on so many levels
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in the Greek the word for church is “ekklesia” and it means a called out assembly or congregation. It NEVER refers to a building. In the early days of the church, they met in home fellowships not in the types of buildings we utilize today. Wherever this comes from it’s no doubt just an opportunity to tear down the faith.
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I always understood the word church as the meeting place of the called out ones. I also do not have an issue calling the building a church. E.g I am going to church. I am going to the meeting place of the called out ones.
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And the point us , WHAT??
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The early church was called the Way go to Blue letter bible and do a word search on the way Gen 3:24
So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
Gen 18:19
“For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the LORD, to do righteousness and justice, that the LORD may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.”
Mat 3:3
For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying:
“The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
‘Prepare the way of the LORD;
Make His paths straight.’ ”
Jhn 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Act 19:23
And about that time there arose a great commotion about the Way. -
I’ll be brief. Correlation does not mean equation or causation (a common logical fallacy, so I don’t blame you). If you applied this particular illogic consistently throughout your life, you would be doing extremely little in your day-to-day life. By this logic (assuming the post is vilifying and discouraging the use of the word church) we shouldn’t pray, call the days of the week something else, circumcision would be rendered pagan as well as animal sacrifices (both commands by YHWH in the TaNakH), etc. If you do any sort of cross-cultural study between the biblical faith and pagan faith, you’ll find the practices have a lot in common, however, this does not conclude worshipping the same god(s). Furthermore, a word’s etymology and cultural ties does not define or limit it’s use as language progresses.
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What does it matter what it was, it’s what it is now that’s important. Same way gay used to have a whole different meaning 100 years ago.
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So does Circe de Soleil stand for Church of the Sun? Interesting.
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Where did you find this? I often examine the source to identify what the objective is behind the writing, once I can ascertain the agenda…then I can figure out how to counter it
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Umm, this is garbage. Who makes this stuff?
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I think whoever made the meme needs better lessons in how to research or to consult a book of english etymology. This is laughable and easily debunked with a quick search if google. Also just because a similar sounding word is present in another language before the adoption of something else doesn’t mean anything especially if the meaning attached to the word resembles the meaning and etymology of adopted word. Btw Celtic isn’t a language but a language family and there is no Circe in the Celtic language group that denotes any sort of witchcraft or relationship to the Greek goddess Circe. There is a similar sounding word in Gaelic but it means chicken lol. In other germanic languages it always was an adopted word.
Also circle in Scottish Gaelic isn’t Kirk or even Circe it’s actually Cearcall…and in Irish Ciorcal. Whereas the old English and Germanic has a definitive kirika which does in fact come from Greek as proto-german did not have a word for church like assemblage of believers. The protogerman word for circle was however hringaz…where we get the term hringa and then ring from. http://langblog.englishplus.com/?p=2649 -
Enter now the atheists… “Oooh ooo see! Seeeeeee! Christians assimilated pagan temples! Christians started off pagan!!! See!” Without trying to find out if it’s true.
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Unimportant
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And misleading
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What do I say about this?
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According to my understanding the Word church. Derive from Ekklesia meaning the Called out . so what. I am reading above it doesn’t correspond. With Theological understanding of the Church
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This is something of importance how?
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A case of 6 degrees of separation
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Ahhhh
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Just more unfounded zeitgeist crap all based on lies and deception.
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NT written in Greek. The called out ones.
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The exact origin are currently disputed and unresolved among Scholars. Could go either way, but one thing is for sure, Christians will always try to deny this, without giving it any serious thought or research.
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I think it’s wrong, best case scenario. The Greek word for ‘church’ is ekklesia and it finds its roots in the Greek language which ‘has been SPOKEN in the Balkan peninsula since around the 3rd millennium, or possibly earlier. The earliest WRITTEN evidence is a Linear B clay tablet found in Messenia that dates to between 1450 and 1350 BC, making Greek the world’s OLDEST recorded living language.”
I googled “how old is the language of Greek” to locate this. I’d take a screen shot and put it on here, but I have no idea how, lol!
Anyway, when I asked Google how old the Celtic language is, it told me roughly 1,500 B.C. Seems like the facts in the OP might be skewed just a touch.
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Good thing the Bible was written in Hebrew and greek
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This is more Hebrew Roots people trying to defecate all over everything they left. Give em enough time and they’ll find a way to make wine a pagan symbol as well.
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I think that it in no way changes the good news of Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection. Nor does it change the saving grace usherd in by that.
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Lol..track the sources and you will find that is is simply not true.
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I think the point they’re trying to get at is the root of the English word “church”. Not sure why because it in no way has anything to do with salvation.
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Jefmor with the information age at your finger tips why stumble over meme as this a create such a beam in your eye
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Strong’s #1577: ekklesia (pronounced ek-klay-see’-ah)
from a compound of 1537 and a derivative of 2564; a calling out, i.e. (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):–assembly, church.
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Well the word in the Bible is “Ekklesia” not Church.
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Don’t confuse English word for the language of the original Scripture. Church likely as a Germanic origin, Kirke is German word for the building and Kirk the Scottish, would make it seem a reference ti lo the building where as the Greek word most used is- reference to the people, the ekklesia the called out or together. the other word is Basilia which was originally the court building which is the origin of Basilica. Thats the building. The cbimurch.is not the church, the gathered people are. The building likely only dedicated for use as a place of worship but not really necessary. What’s needed is the people of faith to be a church
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