When is a soul created? I think at conception.
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I say you’re right we were chosen from the foundation of the earth ??♀️ just my 2¢
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If He has known us since we were in the womb there had to be something to know ? it was US our whole being ?❤️
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Jeremiah 1:5. 🙂
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no ..God says to david before i knitted you together in your mothers womb i knew you..and about the chosen ellect the word says we were chosen befor the foundation of the earth.
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For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.” 10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
They were not even conceived yet when God had already decided what would happen.
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At third second of life, soul it is there. God had sent his breath on it.
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yes – at conception
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In fact it is the Presence of a a soul that is called the Conception.
Take the soul out, we have nothing left! -
When the breath of life is breathed in at birth.
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Agree at conception.
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At the beginning. Not at birth.
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Before the creation of the world
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I’m not sure.. but definitely before birth..
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Have to go with previous comments above, He knew us before we were created in our mother’s womb.
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If by “soul” you mean a living creature or life…then most clearly at conception.
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Created is an interesting question ? when does the soul enter into a person is generally believed at conception or when a baby takes its first breathe, but created? The bible does say before Jeremiah was formed that God knew him, does this mean that jeremiahs soul already existed before his conception? Or did his soul proceed from God directly from God as the Father of Spirits? Interesting question ??
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Amen even before we were conceived in the womb.
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It’s says in Jeremiah“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
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When is a soul created? According to Eph 1:4 before the foundation of the world. But I can settle with the understanding that the soul enters this body at conception.
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“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you Jeremiah 1:5
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At conception. God uses the means of procreation a now when he knits us together. We already have life.
With Adam only, he had a lifeless dirt masterpiece that he gave life to through his breath.
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Remember now that when ever reference is made of a person by God, He is referring to our spirit. I am not too sure when the soul is created or becomes active in a life. If a baby dies that spirit goes back to the giver who is God, but did that infant had a soul???
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Define soul..
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There’s 3 things to consider:
Spirit
Soul
FleshThe soul is the persons mind also known as “heart”
I believe it’s present at conception but not used till later.
For deeper clarification, the Bible teaches that each of us has three parts: spirit, soul and body.
Paul mentions all three in one verse.
“Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ”.— 1 Thessalonians 5:23
Body
Our body is the easiest part to understand because it’s the part we see. Our body is the flesh and bones we walk around in.Everything physical is our body. Our skin and bones, muscles, nerves, blood, hair, etc., all make up our bodies.
This is the part of us that decays over time and will eventually cease functioning when we die.
Soul
Our soul is our mind, will and emotions. This is the part where we think and feel. It’s where we plan and organize, the part of us that stays focused or gets distracted. Our soul feels pleasure or perceives hurts from others.Our soul can be energized or discouraged. It’s where we form words to communicate with others. And it’s where our personality comes to life.
It is in our soul that we become anxious or we rest peacefully. It’s where we worry about bad things or meditate on good things.
Spirit
We are all created as spiritual beings too. Because our spirits are intangible and usually have no direct manifestation in this world, this part gets overlooked and discounted by many folks.It is in our spirit that the Spirit of God comes to reside when we become new creations upon accepting the payment Jesus made for our sins. When that happens our spirit comes to life because it is finally connected to its intended power source.
The Bible teaches that our spirit is made perfect and sealed the moment we are born again.
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I think your soul was always there waiting for the right body to enter.
This is why the soul can never die. -
The soul is a person’s essential self, the embodiment of his values. A soul is measured in moral rather than physical or intellectual terms. It transcends the material world.
Most Christians regard the soul as the immortal essence of a human – the seat or locus of human will, understanding, morality and/or personality. When a person’s physical body dies, it is the soul that proceeds to the afterlife in Heaven or Hell. By analogy the Holy Spirit is the Soul of the Christian Church.
Atheistic scientists generally ignore or dismiss the soul as unsuitable for study. To be precise, the methodological naturalism of modern science is unable to handle the concept of the soul. Anything which is not material is deliberately excluded from consideration, and as the soul is not a material thing scientists accordingly refuse to study it. This has implications for the study of human psychology, despite the fact that the word “psychology” is Latin for “study of the soul.” There is also the question of when the soul enters the body, as this is important for the debate on abortion from a theological position.
It should be noted that there was once a study made at the turn of the 20th century by Duncan MacDougall of the loss of weight at the time of death. The scientist doing the measurements concluded that this loss of weight (approximately three quarters of an ounce) was due to the soul leaving the body.[1] He also did a similar experiment with dogs, but found no change in weight, which would match the Chistian concept that of God’s creations on the earth, humans alone have souls. No known attempts to follow up his work have ever been made.
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Before the beginning of time
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Conception
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Before conception.. In the heart of God
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It happens at conception. Remember, John leapt in his mother’s womb when Jesus and His mother came to visit. Samson was made a Nazarite before he was born. David said he knew us while he was knit in the womb. Too many scriptures that state we were alive in the womb
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Question is it from parents dna or created by God?
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Poster are you asking about intellect.
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I believe before conception, that is when the body is created, in my humble opinion.
Before you were formed in the womb, I knew every hair on your head.
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maybe the question we need to answer is:is God still creating things including souls?
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God created Adam with, “His Breath”, which His Holy Spirit, the man became “Living being”, Body, Soul and Spirit. Now you can study Bible on this topic and learn more. God bless you.
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Ok,
Great question.But it opens the theology of abortion.
If the soul is during conception.
If a child is aborted does it go to heaven or hell.
We’re born into sin.
And the child is unable to “repent”
Therefore it would either not have to opportunity to enter heaven
Or get an automatic enterIf the child is forgiven
Why is abortion wrong?If your not the one murdering the baby
And it’s not your babyThat child could grow up to be a drug dealer or a serial murderer
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Aborted
They go directly to heaven, blessed to the point that they don’t have to fall into the sin they would haveSo having the baby born is a 50/50 shot their final destination
But aborting them
We’re just filling up heaven? -
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Soul is the power of God, seed of God = male = Adam
Eve was taken out of Adam = female = spirit of mankind.At conception, male and female as one flesh their seed (children) receiving soul and spirit of mankind.
Mankind being “Separated from God” in their corrupted form is as follows.
Father = Soul = light or darkness
Mother = spirit of mankind = appeal to the wants and desires of the fruit of the flesh or the appeal to the seed within the fruit ones soul.The closer the Father is to God the more the soul is light meaning order and lawful.
The closer the mother is to God, the more the spirit of mankind will appeal to the soul.
Therefore there Children are likely to appeal to the ways of God naturally.
The opposite…
The more the father is removed from God, the darker the soul of the children.
The more the mother is removed from God, the more the children will appeal to satisfy the fruit of the flesh and rebel against God and all things of God.If both parents are not Sanctified, purified and Justified, doesn’t matter how much one claims to be a “Christian” how many times one goes to Church, one reminds carnal, who walks in flesh, by sight and by their own strength.
The results in their children despite growing up in the church, they will eventually leave the faith, appeal to motivational and emotional “self determination” the fruit of their flesh and disregard their soul.
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Gen 1:26 says that God created parents for the whole of humanity. Gen. 2:7 says, “on the seventh day God rested from all His work which God had created and made. Romans 5:18 talks about the first Adam, the federal head of the human race, whose trespass was attributed to all of humanity. For the sin of Adam to impact the whole human race, we all had to share the chromosomes of Adam and Eve genetically. Since God created and completed his work on the seventh day and rested. And since all of humanity shares the DNA of Adam and Eve and, since Adam’s sin is imputed to everyone when he sinned Romans 5:18, then when God finished His work on the seventh day, all of humanity was complete in Adam and Eve genetically. So then logically, the soul of every human being was entire and apart of our first parents.
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Before the foundation of the world.
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The person has a body/soul/spirit. I know of no place where one part is added/developed later. So soul has to be at the same time as the body. L&P
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Definitively there is no clear answer in the Bible.
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at conception
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Grant Reedy by your logic both Cain and Abel should have had the same standing in God’s eyes as they both came from Adam and eve which both sinned. yet we see the opposite of what you describe happening…Cain’s offer rejected whereas Abel’s offer accepted..same parents..that one tale completely destroys your entire hypotheses….let us look a bit further down the timeline..twins are born to Isaac…Esau and Jacob…God himself says Jacob i loved..Esau i hated..not only were they twins , they were born with Jacob holding onto Esau’s ankle…(same parents) one loved by God and one hated..another destructive blow to your new age thinking nonsense..another one for the false teachers club guys…and in the next corner….GGGRRRRRAAAAANNNNTTTTT REEEEEEDDDDDDYYYY
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I agree with Jeffrey
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Human soul and spirit are both immortal. They already exists ahead of Adams body that was formed by God. The soul and spirit were just infused into the clay.
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embryo = conception !!!
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Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations
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Scripture does not say.
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