Do Christians who reject the so called ‘Apocrypha’ also reject the LXX/Septuagint?
If so, do they realize that they do not trust that God gave them the complete written word until the 4th century when Jerome received the “correct” version from anti Christian Jews in Bethlehem?
Read Luke 4:24
I reject both
Septuagint is the Old Testament in Greek. Apochrapha has no standing anywhere.
LJ Thriepland so God’s words were lost during translation? Or were God’s words lost during some natural cause?
Its JUNK both of them !
Neither were inspired!
The Apocrypha (which would have been considered Old Testament) was not considered to be Scripture by the Jews. Nor was it cited by Jesus. Jesus cited nearly every other Old Testament book, at least once.
So none of you that deny the septuagint use the KJV i hope.
The KJV and the LXX are proven more than 99.5% contextually accurate to the Dead Sea Scrolls. The LXX is the Old Testament. The LXX and the KJV differ slightly from each other. The differences from each other is of little consequence to the meaning as is their menial differences from the Dead Sea Scrolls. The OT first five books (of Moses) and the prophets are inspired of God. The Apocrypha covers about 400 years of history just prior to Jesus. the Apocrypha is not considered inspired and some of the books of the OT i.e. from Joshua to Song of Solomon are mostly not inspired either. The problem the western church had with the Apocrypha is that the Apocrypha was too Jewish for the gentile only church. There is no reason to not read the Apocrypha. It is worth doing the research for yourself.
Interesting. There are books referred to by David that appear to have disappeared. And the book of Enoch appears to fill in the gap left in the Old Testament. I’m looking into this.
The various part of Scripture were written at different time and accepted at those times. The Septuagint is a Greek Translation of the old testament and a different issue than the Apocrya. It’s. Named that because while it was in the Liver of old testament rack of scrolls in as behind a curtain, thus hidden. It was not seen as authkrative but God to read. Like our Christian novels Ben Hut abs the Robe. You really needy to read a good boom on how we got the Bible. The 4tg century SMTHE lists of accepted books for the New Testament goes back earlier than the 4century abut the it is the most Official on from that period. We don’t. reject the Septuagint. When I was in seminary they told us to sell all we had and buy one, which I did. Though never used it. It’s basic value is how accurate a copy of the Old Testament found in later periods. Just often quoted the sold testament from that translation. Nor is the Apocrypha quoted by the new testament authors.
Not sure what Luke 4:24 has to do with the rest of the OP.
I reject the Apocrypha as the inspired word of God. I thought, and fact check me if I’m wrong, that when Jesus quotes the Old Testament, He quotes from the LXX.
These books (the Apocrypha) were never accepted by Jews as Scripture, but throughout the early history of the church, there was a divided opinion on whether they should be part of Scripture or not. In fact, the earliest Christian evidence is decidedly against viewing the Apocrypha as Scripture, but the use of the Apocrypha gradually increased in some parts of the church until the time of the Reformation. (You can get a detailed historical survey of the differing views of Christians regarding the Apocrypha in F. F. Bruce’s The Cannon of Scripture, or in Roger Beckwith’s The Old Testament Cannon of the New Testament Church and Its Background in Early Judaism). The fact that these books were included by Jerome in his Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible (completed in AD 404) gave support to their inclusion, even though Jerome himself said they were not “books of the Canon” but merely “books of the church: that were helpful and useful for believers. The wide use of the Latin Vulgate in subsequent centuries guaranteed their continued accessibility, but the fact that they had no Hebrew original behind them, and their exclusion from the Jewish canon, as well as the lack of their citation in the NT, led many to view them with suspicion or the reject their authority.
In 1546, at the Council of Trent, the Roman Catholic Church officially declared the Apocrypha to be part of the canon (with the noted exception of 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh). It is significant that the Council of Trent was the response of the Roman Catholic Church to the teachings of Martin Luther and the rapidly spreading Protestant Reformation, and the books of the Apocrypha contain support for the Catholic teaching of prayer for the dead and justification by faith plus works, not by faith alone. In affirming the Apocrypha as within the canon, Roman Catholics would hold that the church has the authority to constitute a literary work as “Scripture” while Protestants have held that the church cannot make something to be Scripture, but can only recognize what God has already caused to be written as his own words.
Drew there are several different levels of mss. Protocanonical, deutercanonical, tritiocanonical, and other writings. These were delt with differently and still are
Suggested reading:
“The Bible Is A Catholic Book” by Jimmy Akins, c2019
The very same God who fashioned elements from the Spiritual Realm into matter that is apprehended and constrained by Time and physics is the very same God who has provided the Holy Bible that is before us. When you suggest that the mind of man somehow wrote and preserved the Scriptures down through history you blaspheme, insult, God the Holy Spirit. The same omnipotent God who created Time, this Universe, the complex human genome is perfectly capable of providing you with the exact words He desires you have so that you can know Him intimately, love Him personally, obey Him fully and live with Him eternally. Stop trusting in man and take refuge in our Lord!
Valid Christians reject the Apocryphal books for one good reason: they’re not Scripture. So-called Jewish books that were never written in Hebrew and contradict the true canonical Books just don’t belong.
Any where, try to become great archeology and proof that of LXX than what they aprove
im sure that a lot of it is true stuff but it’s irrelevant cause it’s mostly just a history of some wars that took place between old and new testaments
The Apocrypha was written during the time between the Old and New Testaments when God did not speak to man, therefore it is not part of God’s Word which He gave to mankind, they are only stories. Some of them are history of what happened during that time, but they are not inspired word of God.
I would say you need to look at canon comparison in Logos software. It is far more extensive than these guys who are posting. It is not as cut and dry as they make it out to be. For instance up until ~1825 ad the Protestant version of 66 books wasn’t official. The Bible Society stopped putting the Apocrphya in English for Americans in 1804 but left them in for European Christians. The KJV had all the deuterocanonical books of the RC church in it when it was published and still does in many traditions. Anyway here is a picture of how books are handled. There are also some NT books that are “added” as well in different church traditions. Not in this picture.
Jude and Peter both refute apocryphal works.
One thing is certain for me anyway, I believe that God, who raised Jesus from the dead, the Creator of life itself can get His written communication to His subjects and that this communication would be complete and available to all souls!!!
Here is 126 pages for you to review.
Just so you know, the Masoretic you have today (your OT) is mingled with the LXX via Jerome..
Otherwise the virgin Mary wouldn’t have to be a virgin at all because the actual corrupted Masoretic says that the Messiah would be born of a young woman.. which is really not a sign at all.. people are born everyday by women… :/
Jerome noticed this and kept the LXX “Virgin” and not “Maiden” like the Jews in Bethlehem would have us believe
Are you saying the Dead Sea Scrolls are inaccurate as well?
Poster the living God said other wise.
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