Anyone. Do all inclinations to sin go away once you’re saved? Let me give some context because this is a very loaded question. Let’s say a man (or woman) is born again from being gay. They’re led through the sinners prayer (doesn’t matter formal or informal) and decide to accept Christ. Do you believe that every fiber of change that is needed has already happened, thus absolutely no sexual desire to be with the same sex again or do you think it takes time? Here’s why I ask. Some believers believe that once you become a believer that free will is now negated or even believe that once we’re saved, we will no longer have any desire to wander outside of God’s will again. But if this was the case, there would be testimonials of believers backsliding OR (for that matter) the prodigal son. While I absolutely believe that believers (baby’s and mature believers) will experience a desire to change on the inside, it does take time. A new believer (male) may be very strong with other believers, but that doesn’t negate any temptation to porn where he may be addicted and he uses his laptop in the corner of the house by himself when he’s alone. A mature believer can still be haunted by demons from alcoholism and that temptation could prove devastating when he finds himself on a bar stool during “last call” and he’s been there since he got out of work. While Romans 8 applies, so absolutely does Romans 7. Thoughts?
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It seems to me from this post and your other post you are trying to say that back sliding also known as being human and making mistakes is the same as turning away from your faith. Is that correct? Or am I reading into it to much?
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Romans 8 my friend… study it
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For I do not understand what I am doing, because I do not practice what I want to do, but I do what I hate. Now if I do what I do not want to do, I agree with the law that it is good. So now I am no longer the one doing it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh. For the desire to do what is good is with me, but there is no ability to do it. For I do not do the good that I want to do, but I practice the evil that I do not want to do. Now if I do what I do not want, I am no longer the one that does it, but it is the sin that lives in me. So I discover this law: When I want to do what is good, evil is present with me. For in my inner self I delight in God’s law, but I see a different law in the parts of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and taking me prisoner to the law of sin in the parts of my body.
Romans 7:15-23 CSB -
The Christian Life is a fight.Keep On !!!
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Man that would be nice that all your past bondages that had you condemn to hell would not surface anymore but truth be known your mind is like a hard drive on a computer. Every thing you done,seen,experienced is stored in your mind and certain things my trigger them to surface. But Glory to God you have the power through the Holy Spirit not to dwell on it because if you do it will lead you to stumble which we all do at times. Jesus was the perfect One not us. We have to fight the good fight of faith and trust the word of God and believe there is gonna be a time when we will not have that temptation anymore. Glory to the Lamb!!!
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Romans 7 is not a Christian. Romans 8 is. Romans 9 shows us that it’s Him who did all the work, even providing us with the faith we need to believe.
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Or salvation is both now and not yet. Saved in spiritual position, but not quite in practice. This is what Paul referred to in saying, “work out your salvation”. Your spirit is secured for heaven and glory when you die, but while we are still present on this earth we will remain susceptible to the temptations of life. The indwelling Spirit of God will begin changing you and through diligent study and prayer and exercising our free will we can grow closer to God and be me affected by temptation, but it is an ongoing process that will only be finished when we join Christ in heaven.
So, no. Inclinations towards sin will remain. But God gives us strength to choose Him.
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It’s not a loaded question. It’s justification vs sanctification.
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Its not magic. It takes time because you replace your free will with God’s will. Now when you fail to meet God’s will lets say porn. What you do after you committed porn matters. If you feel sorry of what you’ve done and ask forgiveness the Lord will forgive as said in
Romans 8:38-39
“For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor heavenly rulers, nor things that are present, nor things to come, nor powers,
nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”It is clear that it said “nor anything”.
The prodigal son’s story is a good example. Good thing you brought it up. The son become sinful like so sinful. Yet, at the end he realized what he has done and came back to his father which represents God. And we know what happened after.
We can still commit and ommit sin but what we do after is important.
And also Jesus said in
John 14:15
“If you love me, you will obey my commandments”
If we truly love God or accept His salvation and make Him our Lord and Saviour, we will try to comply to His demands. Because He also said, what is of Heaven does heavenly things and what’s of Evil does evil things. So your motive is asked in here too. -
Can and will deal with din issues until glorified!
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Every inclination is not wiped away, only the sin is
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The bare minimum proof of a regenerate mind is that you will never, ever feel good of committing the same sin again. You will have that godly sorrow and will not have peace until you confess to the Lord. Sanctification is progressive
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Sanctification into the likeness of Christ is a lifelong journey never fully achieved until glory. March on Christian, resist temptation and repent when you recognize you have sinned.
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What you once wanted to do, you now want not to do. Temptation is still there but the Holy Spirit gives you the Power to be an Overcomer. You have at last obtained Free Will because the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has set you FREE from the Law of Sin and Death. Rejoice! If you do sin, you have an advocate who when you confess your sin will appeal to His Father for Mercy and Grace. Shall we sin that grace may abound, God forbid. We should sin less as God’s Word cleanses us from all Sin. Read the Bible out aloud to yourself, Faith comes by hearing, hearing by the Word of God.
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I believe being saved fortifies you to help you resist sin, but the temptation will be there until you overcome it – which takes time.
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