Here’s something to think about while letting scripture interpret itself. God’s mercy is for a thousand generations. If we took this in a wooden literal sense here’s what happens in Matthews genealogy from Abraham to Christ was 42 generations so for argument sake we go back 42 more to Adam so that’s 84. From Christ to now I’ll high ball and make it 116 so now we stand at 200 generations. Say a generation is 40 years and we have 800 more generations till God’s mercy runs out so based on these calculations he won’t return for another 32000 years. No one believes he will wait that long though possible it’s his call. This is one of the problems reading the bible in a wooden literal face value way. This is a death blow to dispensatinalism
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How is that a death blow to Dispensationalist?
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Well everyone is waiting for this rapture ain’t gonna happen till 32000 since 1 day with the Lord is a thousand years interpretation
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Just out of curiosity, how is this a death blow to dispensationalism?
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Exegesis vs eisegesis
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It is a hermeneutical system that was imported from the British isles in the early to mid 1800’s. It’s primary spokesman was John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren.
It was a novel system that divided the scriptures and redemptive history into seven epochs, each with distinctives in terms of how God approached man salvifically and how man responded. It holds to a radical distinction between God’s redemptive work with Israel (which is seen to be primary) and Gods redemptive work with the church, which is seen as a sort of “plan B” in their thinking. They call the church an “intercalation”, a parenthesis in God’s saving program.
It is a novel scheme, imposed upon scripture, not derived from the exegesis of scripture. It became popular when C.I Scofield incorporated its novel tenets into his 1901 Scofield Reference Bible. Its popularity grew through the 20th century primarily by employing sensationalistic schemes of eschatology and popularizing them through books, Bible colleges, conferences and even motion pictures.
It is one of the most unfortunate spiritual devices that American Christianity has ever found on its playground and has spiritually stupefied generations and made the centrality of Jesus obscure and secondary.
My advice to you is to take rigorous pains to avoid it. It is thankfully a dying breed but there are still many popular “Bible teachers” who espouse it’s supposed virtues -
You are making a presuppositional argument in that post yourself.
No one knows the day or hour of the Lords return.
Each generation lived a shorter and shorter life span.
32,000 years is a long time for us. To God ’tis but a blink of an eye.
To Michael’s comment, how is this a “death blow to dispensationalism?”
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That wasn’t the point I was making. Using preconceived ideas and imposing them on the text (dispensatinalism) is eisegesis not exegesis. They take things in a wooden literal sense instead of the sense it was intended by the author to that audience
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I can most definitely say He is coming WAAAAAAY before 32,000 years. There is the 6 and 1 situation. There is the day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day in Hosea He comes back on the 3rd day just as He did in bringing the Law. Israel is in the land. The Roman empire has been reshaping since Israel came back in the land. I just disagree is all so don’t take offense.
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The point wasn’t the 32000 year scenario it’s about how we use the literal approach. One way is the literal sense that it was intended or the wooden literal take it as it’s written approach. That means Jesus is part animal part plant and part steel
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That’s the point i am making some would take things in a wooden literal way
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Harold Goldman the word “soon” is not taken literally and should be. The death of Despensationalist ideas is in the picture. I don’t believe the 1000 year reign is literal either just means a long time.
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Yes Jesus was coming in judgement against unbelieving Israel via the Roman army. God always used their enemies to bring judgement so that they would repent
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You shouldn’t be reading the Bible literally anyway. If you are, then you are either a fundamentalist or an atheist, both of whom do not know how to read the Bible.
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It’s good to examine everything in the Bible, I have literally no arguments against or for this post, I don’t know. But I know, that every one every single one who reads this will stand before the judgment Seat of Christ within the 100 years from now. Most of us much more sooner. Either He’s coming Here or you coming there doesn’t really make much difference
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It would be a “death blow” if the dispensationalists preach another Jesus.
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For God a day is as 1000 years and 1000 years is as a day. Mercy could also mean ending all generations sooner. Remember in Matthew 24 He tells us He shortens the days because a tribulation makes it so no one can live here.
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Do you know what we’re talking about if all the bees and insects die? You know seafood is coming up cooked and crabs are coming up with shells dissolved oceans acidified?
The oceans are losing oxygen and the bees are dying. That means no foods.
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