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I recommend that people search for Bibles without verse and…

5 years ago • May 19, 2021 • by ourCOG

I recommend that people search for Bibles without verse and chapter separations in them, save for Psalms (Chapter only).

When I started reading the Bible without these artificial dividers, so much false doctrine melted away.

I have found that it is shocking to some people that the Bible was not written in this chapter and verse format.

People treat verses as Stand-alone, Context-free, Doctrinal statements that they act as if they are lego blocks to build all sorts of error-riddled doctrines. People call ‘verses’, Scriptures. Matthew is A Scripture, Genesis is A Scripture, a verse is just a snippet FROM a Scripture.

Verse Theology has got to go.

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21 comments

  1. Dan Waenet says:
    April 26, 2020 at 6:13 am

    I always see those more as reference points, like mini page.

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  2. Bradley Curnow says:
    April 26, 2020 at 8:16 am

    It would make my life a lot less embarrassing if everyone started doing that, because I always forget the address!

    I can just lead with “scripture says” instead 😀

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  3. Matthew Boyce says:
    April 26, 2020 at 10:53 am

    Verses are tools thats all. Tools can be used well or poorly. If I try to use a screwdriver as a hammer it doesn’t work well but that doesn’t mean all screwdrivers are bad I’m just not using it for its intended purpose. So yes verses need to be read in context but they are useful tools to help us read and recall scripture when used properly.

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  4. Brad Jones says:
    April 26, 2020 at 11:21 am

    AKA proof-texting. Come up with a whacky doctrine and then go find scriptures to back it up, ignoring those that don’t.

    Another problem area is people taking specific promises to specific people in a specific time as general promises of God to all people and building theologically unsound principles from them.

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  5. Nicholas Hall says:
    April 26, 2020 at 11:31 am

    I’m not sure what the difference in outcome would actually be. As one can still reference the sentence or section of a scripture. Verses make this process of reference more effective and efficient.

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  6. Doug Hammond says:
    April 26, 2020 at 11:46 am

    Context. Many people take a verse or verses out of context. Original texts used symbols to denote pauses or divisions primarily for reading aloud. It wasn’t until 1200’s that chapter divisions came into use, then 1500’s for verse divisions.
    As I was taught, ignore the chapter and verses, read what comes before a verse or verses and what comes after to see if the intent of a single verse coincides with the intent of the entirety of the context.

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  7. Whit Longcore says:
    April 26, 2020 at 11:58 am

    Does it change things? Even without verse references, when Jesus was tempted, we see both sides. Jesus’ “it is written”s were used properly, and Satan’s were not. No verse reference was necessary for those words to be used for deception.

    While they can be misused, the chapter/verse references are merely a placeholder. An easy way to point someone to what you’re referencing. If I quote from Isaiah, using chapter and verse, people can go see for themselves if I’ve even quoted it right, or in context. Without any chapters or verses, most wouldn’t even bother searching through such an enormous book for a single reference.

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  8. Nicholas Hall says:
    April 26, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    So it is being said that verses lead to them being quoted out of context. That seems to lead to some conflicts with similarity. Also, it could be argued that the Bible is meta- contextual. So it’s possible because of this meta-contextuality to use verses from different passages in combination.

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  9. Harold Goldman says:
    April 26, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    The whole of scripture is more important than it’s individual parts. But we can’t understand the whole without them hence synergy

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  10. Chris Allen says:
    April 26, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    Nah, I’m good.

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  11. Wayne Dodd says:
    April 26, 2020 at 2:35 pm

    I only use verse by verse bibles. Most translations make it clear with a bold letter or a pilcrow where new paragraphs begin if you just pay attention. Verse by verse is especially helpful in teaching and ministering and im also a big believer in context. False doctrine happens when you don’t cross reference and view panoramically, not over a layout.

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  12. Daniel Armijo says:
    April 26, 2020 at 3:53 pm

    The separations are only to help with reference, studying, and learning, nothing more.

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  13. Marco Antonio Moreno Gutierrez says:
    April 26, 2020 at 4:21 pm

    So true

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  14. Jono Rosie says:
    April 26, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    Interesting

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  15. Anthony Barber says:
    April 26, 2020 at 6:50 pm

    You may have a point sir!

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  16. Sam Frost says:
    April 26, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    absolutely

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  17. Shawn Lazar says:
    April 26, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    Give an example of a theological problem solved by taking away verse numbers.

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  18. Foster Saidi says:
    April 27, 2020 at 2:42 am

    I totally agree with you

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  19. Bob Corbett says:
    April 27, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    What is the name of a Bible with no verses ?

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  20. Bruce Venable says:
    May 16, 2020 at 11:36 pm

    I think it’s a ridiculous argument. Just because we have chapters and verses doesn’t mean people are not smart enough to read verses before and verses after a certain verse of scripture.

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