I was listening to a Jordan Peterson video and he brought up a point that I thought might be something to bring up to evolutionists….. If we came from animals then where did our consciousness come from? Animals are nowhere near the thinking beings that we are today so where did our consciousness come from? Does anyone else think that this is a good argument?
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The morality argument:)
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Dude, the question of how consciousness can arise and where it comes from is a HUGE topic with lots of different perspectives on it. I’m in a Philosophy of Mind class right now and that’s all we talk about. Yes, its a good question to explore and can go many, many different ways.
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That is just one aspect that atheists cannot answer. Here are a few more considerations.
Without a personal agent causing the universe to begin to exist,how do you explain how all of space,
time, and matter creating itself?I need to provide your evidence that explains how free will can arise from a purely physical object
How can life come from non-life?
How can non-reason produce reason?
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They cop-out on that and just say that conscience evolved.
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No
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Other than the nothing creating everything argument, the morality argument is the Achilles Heel for atheists.
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I think they might pose the question: why can’t consciousness evolve too?
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Easy answer. It evolved. Just like emotions and self awareness. ??????
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I think there is a misconception when dealing with atheists.
Atheists of today (as opposed to ancient atheist movements) only believe their stance is credible because of Evolution. Evolution is the way they see the world, and are committed to it as a presuppositional absolute!!
They believe that no matter WHAT QUESTION you ask them, the short answer is, “it evolved”. Then they just let their imagination go and try to find a way it “could happen”.
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Metaphysics, epistimology, ontology and many other ologies, isms doctrines help us understand ourselves and the world around us but cannot help us abide by or fulfill the ten commandments.
No doctrine has proven our Lord God created us except His holy books. We dig deep into the very holy books to derive the doctrines that lead us back to the very holy books that lead us back to our Lord God.
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I just want to say that evolution as an explanation for biodiversity is not an argument against god’s creation
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There is little difference between sacrifice and work. They are also both uniquely human. Sometimes, animals act as if they are working, but they are really only following the dictates of their nature. Beavers build dams. They do so because they are beavers, and beavers build dams. They don’t think, “Yeah, but I’d rather be on a beach in Mexico with my girlfriend,” while they’re doing it.
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The greater question is how can consciousness rise out of the inorganic?
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Can you imagine being at the swamp where the first piece of organic matter crawled out and looked around and started sexually reproducing with another piece of organic matter that also climbed out of the swamp and the male one and the female ones reproduced and created more of them and they started eating plants because there were no animals yet to eat. Wow that would have been so neat to watch..
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Seems like a poor argument to me, because of dolphins, elephants, orangutans, etc. Animals simply are much more intelligent than we give them credit for. Any definition of conciousness will include animals other than humans.
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