Is John the Baptist part of the “All have sinned and come short of the glory of God” knowing he was filled with the Holy Ghost in the womb?
Justify your answer.
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All….pretty self explanatory. How would the presence of the Spirit negate sin? He dwells in me, I still sin.
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Your reasoning is off, because, he wasn’t filled with the holy spirit. He was a part of the previous covenant.
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All means all.
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The new testament didn’t happen till after he died, so explain to me why he would be accountable to a covenant he was never a part of??
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sorry, that is a nonsense question.
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Nope! But let us trace which verse from the book of Romans that verse 23 was derived from…check verse 10 where it said,
3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
So it is said, “as it is written”, therefore, there is a verse from the OT where the verse from the NT of Romans 3:10 & 23 was referring to where “all have sinned”, right?If we will go to Psalm 53:3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
And Psalm 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.To justify this, Romans 3:23 said that all have sinned and fall short to God, but there are verses where some people from the OT written that God find them unblemished…..
Let’s check Gen 6:8; Job 1:1; & Luke 1:5-6
God found these people righteous before His eyes so therefore, Rom 3:10 & 23 refers only to those people who are gone back or gone aside and not to all mankind. -
Again, only Jesus had no sin. The rest, including Mary and all the Catholic Saints, Luther, Calvin, Graham, Moody, etc., have sinned. Period.
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He was sent from God born into sinful flesh though the Holy Spirit overcomes the sinful flesh and one appeals to their Soul, the power of God.
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ALL … except for Christ
No matter how good you think you are, or how many good deeds you have done, all have sinned!
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We are greater than John and everyone else before him. Our bodies are temples of the Holy spirit
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All means all, so yes, John was part of the all have sinned. The only sinless one to walk the earth is Jesus, The Son of God. John acknowledged that he was just a sinner to the people he preached to as he stated that he was unworthy to even untie the sandals of the messiah. Also his reaction to Jesus when he was about to baptise him shows awareness of his own position as a sinner before his cousin whom he only knew at this point to be a righteous man. Why would he say that he needed to be baptised by Jesus if he did not acknowledge his own need?
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Every believer can be filled with the Holy Spirit, and all men are sinners.
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I think its you who needs to justify your question.
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Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. KJV. Both human, the Sin nature from Zechariah. Annointed by the Holy Spirit for a purpose, note, he was forbidden wine or strong drink.
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The reason why we need the Holy spirit is because we are weak, vulnerable to the failure.
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And Who then is the Holy One, but Spirit, the One Who comforts with Divine Truth, pure Holy Wisdom that is His Alone to give to whosoever He decides. Jesus Said: “God is the Spirit of Truth and Life.” “God is Spirit.” “God is Life.” …. “My Words are Spirit.” “My Words are Truth.” “My Words are Life.” …. Pray to Him for Wisdom …. in Jesus’ Name. Amen and Amen. Blessings ….
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1Timothy 1:15
“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” -
I don’t think he knew he was full of the holy spirit. And yes he fits in that category like all humans except Jesus.
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Samson was filled with the spirit and he sinned plenty
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Being filled with the Holy Ghost does not imply sinlessness. You may have a right heart and still yield to temptation in moments of weakness.
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Thanks to all of you for your inputs.
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