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Really, I think a person can never even come close to comprehend Charles Page’s Post unless they too had a similar experience, especially as it related to what we use to call a State Overseer, now known as an Administrative Bishop. And it is true, anyone who has experienced such should never post it here. Posting it openly may create a great dilemma for you. I guess it would have to be private. -Melvin Harter, admin

I want to address this dilema. Yes, it would be detrimental to post your experience here for all to see. It should be treated as a public matter if you are continuing on in the ministry of the denomination.

I am making my experiences known in the medium of my capabilities, limited as they are. I am not being encouraged by anyone, in fact mostly discouragement.

Here is a verse of scripture that is applicable for me: Colosians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

I will not make a pretense of being humble, I will not be pushed down into humility by any man. Don’t suggest that I be loving and forgiving when you don’t know if I have not been loving and forgiving. Good for you if you are loving and forgiving. Good for the woman who has been sexually abused if she is loving and forgiving. Good for her if she remains silent and loyal in the face of abuse.

I too will use the #metoo hashtag as should all abused and oppressed people. It is not politically correct and doesn’t fit into proper discourse procedure.

I have a reward and I will not be deceitfully deprived of it. Everyone oppressed and abused have a deserved reward. Stand and fight! You have God on your side!

Discussion

19 comments

  1. Does the Administrative Bishop and the State Overseer’ job title changed without any change in authority and responsibility? I would like to know!

  2. Lahry Sibley says:

    I would like to know where the Bible uses the term “administrative” Bishops, and where does it teaches that Bishops have only administrative responsibilities?

  3. Doyle Rogers says:

    I have a reward and I will not be deceitfully deprived of it. Everyone oppressed and abused have a deserved reward. Stand and fight! You have God on your side! Smile and the world smiles with you CRY AND YOU CRY ALONE …yes you will get your reward… but the question is..WILL IT STAND IN THE FIRE? 1Co_3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

  4. Doyle Rogers says:

    Some of you that write here and waste your time griping and bellyaching have never known what real heartache is……………………………………… Suppose you are wakened by a phone call (.in 1982….that tells you that your 25 year old son has been found hung (and there is evidence of homicide ) and you go for 35 years with no closure because his death has never been investigated….as i said you don’t know what it’s like to go to JESUPS CHURCH CEMETERY and visit his grave…BUT. I haven’t spent my time whinnying over these past years i have allowed the Holy ghost to comfort me…………… The prayer of the addicted is…………………………………………………GOD HELP ME TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN , AND LEAVE ALONE THOSE THAT I CANT, AND GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE …………………………………………………………………DON’T YOU THINK IT’S TIME YOU GOT OVER YOUR ADDICTION OF SELF PITY?

  5. Charles Page says:

    My prayer is God change the things I can’t change, Amen!

  6. Doyle Rogers says:

    MY QUESTION TO YOU ….is Have you given it over to God….God can’t do any thing about as long as you have it in you hands..

  7. Doyle Rogers says:

    God will not violate your will. YOU HAVE TO WILLFULLY GIVE IT TO HIM.

  8. Charles Page says:

    Not only did God “violate” my will he entered the locked doors of my house. Like a thief in the night!

  9. Charles Page says:

    Doyle Rogers, I am not going to chase rabbits with you all day so you have two more shots and then you will be muted.

  10. Doyle Rogers says:

    So you are angry at God?

  11. Doyle Rogers says:

    So You are closed minded to my heartache because you are so wrapped up in you own…Question WERE YOU EVER CALLED OF GOD TO START WITH ….MUTE ME IF YOU MUST…BUT GOING A.W.O. L ON GOD PUTS YOU IN A VERY DANGEROUS SPIRITUAL CONDITION . Jer_12:5 If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?

  12. Bro Doyle Rogers, I read what you wrote regarding your 25 year old son. Our heart goes out to you my Brother. My wife & I also lost our daughter at the young age of 21 months. She was actually murdered by someone in our church (CoG) one Sunday morning and died the very next day just before the noon hour. 40 years now gone by and we have as yet to find out the details. All we have is an autopsy. Also, my wife’s brother, just a young man of 20 years old, died late one fall in a boat incident in a cold lake. Her parents were quite concern whether he went to heaven or not. Her mother died 21 years later. But before she breathed her last breath, the Lord allowed her look into heaven. She cried out saying, “Oh Darrell, we were not sure if you had made it or not.” When my wife’s father heard her say that, he started shouting all over their living room. So I want you to know that my wife and I not only show sympathy for the passing of your son, but we have empathy for you because we too have experienced the death of our child and we know that regardless how long it has been, we all still feel the loss of our children, and we continue to feel it deep within our hearts. I must say that the only scripture verse that we could find to help us was found in Romans 8:28, “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” God richly bless you and your precious wife.

  13. Question for Charles Page. Did you attend Lee during the years 1969-1970?

  14. I remember you there. Where are you now?