To understand The Doctrine of the Trinity We must first review the Attributes of God
He is omnipresent…. exists in all places at the same time with no limitation
He is Immanent, He is Transcendent, He is Immutable, He is not limited by time or space…
So if we apply these attributes it doesn’t make sense that God will first be The Creator Father and then change mode to become the Son but stop being the Father to then change mode and become the Spirit and stop being the Son and Father…how can Jesus be in heaven and on Earth at the same time and be the same? Jesus answered that…. “Our Father who art in Heaven”……yet Jesus was here on Earth teaching the disciples and He refered always to His Father…
Instead we can observe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit whom are persons of the One only God have the same attributes. All three can continue to exist simultaneously.
For instance…. in science there is a point where matter of elements is so unstable that it can be solid, gas and liquid at once. It is called point Zero or
ZPE…. this happens at a temperature that is zero, both hot and cold at the same time.
A good example is when liquid nitrogen freezes anything it touches instantly.
So…
The doctrine of the Trinity of the One God can be understood more like H2O
It can be liquid, Let’s call that the Father
Solid…. let’s call that the Son
And gas… let’s call that the Spirit.
Different states but the same H2O,
Yet that is not what we see in Scripture exactly because they all exist at once. We see that all three exist at the same time and have the same attributes of transcendence and immutability.
God exists in that “ZPE”He is all at once and that is why all keep the same attributes. ( I am not saying God is matter, just using this reality of elements to illustrate a way of understanding the Trinity)
Scripture says that God does not change, so the idea of taking different modalities contradicts Scripture
Malachi 3:6
Numbers 23:19
Isaiah 57:15
James 1:17
Hebrews 13:8
Psalms 102:25-27
Isaiah 40:28
1 Tim 1:17
1 Peter 1:3
Job 23:18
Rev 1:8 etc
That souds to me a logical mistake. What seems true may not be true.
Just applying simple reasoning and the principle of non contradiction or Unity of Scripture….. How is it more logical to say that whenever Jesus prayed He was talking to himself? That is not what the text tells us and it is in contradiction with what the Bible says as a whole. “Sola Scritura” …we let Scripture tell us what it says and we don’t add what is not there. Jesus prayed to The Father.
So then why did Jesus say on the cross that “Father , why hath thou forsaken Me”….does that mean that he was talking to himself?
And when Jesus said”in my Father’s house are many mansions if it were not so I would have told you ” I guess in this verse to Jesus was talking abt himself
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Your assertion that God is omnipresent conflicts with the Scriptures. For example: “He entered heaven itself; now to appear for us in God’s presence” (Hebrews 9:24 NIV). Christ had to go back to heaven to be “in God’s presence”, proving that Almighty God is not present everywhere. “Then hear from heaven where you live” (1 Kings 8:43 NLT). Almighty God lives in a specific location, and not everywhere. But he doesn’t need to be everywhere. Because he is Almighty, no one should think that they “can escape God’s judgment” (Romans 2:3 NIV; Amos 9:1-4).
We are mere creatures with only earthly understandings we wont even understand fully when we come face to face with YHWH.
I’m thinking less H2o, but more like an egg. There a yolk, white, and shell. But you don’t refer to them as 3 eggs. It’s 1 egg.
I THINK THE BEST WAY TO COMPREHEND GOD TO TO TRY TO COMPREHEND OURSELFS. WE ARE MADE IN GOD’S IMAGE SO WE ARE TRIUNE BEING. SPIRIT, WHAT I CALL LIFE FORCE, WHAT ANIMATES US. SOUL, THE PART THAT IS OURSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS. BODIES, OUR EARTH SUIT TO INTERACT WITH THE PHYSICAL WORLD. THE 3 OF THEM MAKES US ONE HUMAN. THAT’S THE BEST WE AS HUMANS CAN GET TO UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRIUNE GODHEAD.