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What’s the clearest Scripture that Christ did not die for the whole world (limited atonement), given 1 John 2:2 – “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for *the sins of* the whole world”?

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  1. Ralph Edwards II says:

    Though Jesus made His propitiation for the whole world, yet the whole world is not saved and in fellowship with God. This is because atonement does not equal forgiveness. The Old Testament Day of Atonement (Leviticus 16:34) demonstrates this, when the sin of all Israel was atoned for every year at the Day of Atonement, yet not all of Israel was saved. The words “but also for the whole world” announce to the world that God has taken care of the sin problem by the propitiation of Jesus Christ. Sin need not be a barrier between God and man, if man will receive the propitiation God has provided in Jesus.

  2. Jack Hickman says:

    All the whosoever Will verses

  3. Lydia Bergen says:

    I get stuck on these passages and struggle to reconcile them with the verses that use words like “all” and “the whole world”(btw I’m not Calvinist., somewhere on the fence trying to figure it out ?)
    “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭6:37‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/59/jhn.6.37.esv

    “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭6:44‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/59/jhn.6.44.esv

    “When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭10:4‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/59/jhn.10.4.esv

    “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭10:11‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    https://www.bible.com/59/jhn.10.11.esv

  4. David Funk says:

    I think what Calvinist try to say is limited expropriation. Everyone has been made atoned for but it hasn’t applied for everyone.

  5. Harish Marasigan says:

    If jesus died for the whole world did he failed to save the people who are in hell?

  6. Rene Angeles says:

    There isn’t unless you want to play with the words: world and all.

  7. Craig Reynolds says:

    God never makes anyone love Him, if you do not accept His Son as Savior and love Him on earth, you will not want to be in Heaven with Him for eternity. Just like Satan and his followers, you get who you follow, God, or Satan.