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Whenever Christians are asked about the 600+ Mosaic laws given…

6 years ago • July 28, 2020 • by ourCOG

Whenever Christians are asked about the 600+ Mosaic laws given by God in the Old Testament (eg. don’t eat shellfish, don’t eat pork, don’t wear clothing with mixed fabric, etc.) the typical response is to say that those laws were part of the old covenant and were replaced by Jesus’ blood atonement and the new covenant. So basically, the Christian claim is that when God gave those laws, they were only meant to be temporary. They were only meant to apply until Jesus’ sacrifice, and then they would no longer have to be followed. However, the Old Testament does not say these laws would be temporary. In fact, the Old Testament repeatedly says all the laws are forever…

“Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the Lord your God is giving you FOR ALL TIME.” (Deuteronomy 4:40)

“You shall therefore love the Lord your God and keep his charge, his statutes, his rules, and his commandments ALWAYS.” (Deuteronomy 11:1)

“These are the statutes and rules that you shall be careful to do in the land that the Lord, the God of your fathers, has given you to possess, ALL THE DAYS THAT YOU LIVE ON THE EARTH.” (Deuteronomy 12:1)

“Be careful to obey all these words that I command you, that it may go well with you and with your children after you FOREVER, when you do what is good and right in the sight of the Lord your God.” (Deuteronomy 12:28)

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children FOREVER, that we may do all the words of this law.” (Deuteronomy 29:29)

“And the statutes and the rules and the law and the commandment that he wrote for you, you shall ALWAYS be careful to do… (2 Kings 17:37)

“… all his precepts are trustworthy; they are established FOREVER AND EVER, to be performed with faithfulness and uprightness.” (Psalm 111:7-8)

“But you are near, O Lord, and all your commandments are true. Long have I known from your testimonies that you have founded them FOREVER.” (Psalm 119:151-152)

“The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures FOREVER.” (Psalm 119:160)

How do Christians deal with these verses? Again, please don’t simply respond by saying that Jesus’ death fulfilled it and that’s why you don’t have to follow these laws. Yes I know that’s what you believe. What I’m asking is how do you reconcile this belief you have with the verses that clearly state all the laws are to be followed “forever”? This seems to me like the New Testament contradicts the Old Testament.

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123 comments

  1. Nate Graham says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:37 am

    Until they want to judge gays, then they are relevant.

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  2. Chris Krumlauf says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:38 am

    Who is the “you” referred to in those verses? The Jews. The ceremonial laws were given do that God’s people should stand apart from the rest.

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  3. Alan Saffer says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:40 am

    Are you trying to keep all the law? How about the sacrifices year in & year out?

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  4. Michael David says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:42 am

    “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord , when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord . For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord : I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    Jeremiah 31:31‭-‬33

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  5. Zach Michael says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:43 am

    “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:”
    ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭

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  6. Susan Moore says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:45 am

    They were the Laws for the Jews of the OT. We as Gentiles do not come under those laws. 600 laws! I do not know one Jew who keeps those laws.

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  7. Harold Goldman says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:45 am

    Have you not read Galatians the law was put in charge to lead you to Christ

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  8. Emanuel Tadong says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:46 am

    ???

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  9. Dan Waenet says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:46 am

    Jesus also clarified on that. So I am enjoying shell fish and pork now.

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  10. Nikki Sheppick says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:46 am

    We are not to go back under the Law – Legalism/religious = seeking to get to Heaven by works: Matthew 23

    23 “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    24 [Ye] blind guides, which strain …. at a gnat, and swallow …. a camel.

    25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside …. of the cup and of the platter, but within …. they are full of extortion and excess.

    26 [Thou] blind Pharisee, cleanse first that [which is] within …. the cup and platter, that the outside …. of them may be clean also.

    27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like …. unto whited sepulchres, which …. indeed appear beautiful outward, …. but are within …. full of dead [men’s] bones, and of all …. uncleanness.

    28 Even so ye also outwardly …. appear righteous unto men, but within …. ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.” – Jesus, for more, go here: https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Legalism/

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  11. Aldreg Soriano says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:46 am

    Read the New Testament. You will not understand if you stick on the old.

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  12. Chad Bruce says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:48 am

    The OT laws consist of: Moral, Ceremonial, and Judicial laws. God’s ceremonial laws were te set the Jews apart from the rest of the world as His people. They were called to be different (like we are) from the rest of the world. God’s moral law still applies to Christians today, and in fact, Jesus raised the standard on the moral law in the Sermon On The Mount in Matt 5 – 7. Christians shouldn’t have idols, murder, commit adultery, etc. The difference is that the law is written on our heart when we come to Christ. We no longer want to live in/commit sin because we have become a new creation in Christ. The old has past and the new has come.

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  13. Jacob Burbidge says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:49 am

    Jeremiah 31:31 – “Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah.”

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  14. Rick Holtsclaw says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:51 am

    Jesus Christ is the Living Law, Jesus is our Sabbath’s rest…Jesus fulfilled the Law perfectly. The Law was given SPECIFICALLY to the Hebrew Tribes as they were to be holy as God is holy. The “objective moral” aspects of the Law of Conscience (Romans 2:15) and the moral aspects of the Commandments and 613-Levitical Laws will remain valid and applicable in perpetuity. Jesus Christ is the END OF THE LAW concerning righteousness because righteousness i.e. a right standing with God the Father, could NEVER be attained by keeping the Law…we’re sinners and the Law mandates perfection if it is to be applied as righteousness.

    The ceremonial and dietary aspects of the LAW were to be applied to the Covenant of Law and those who were under that Covenant. Christians are under the Covenant of Grace provided by the atonement of Jesus Christ as our Messiah. Christians are NOT obligated to keep a day or dietary laws…we are free in Christ under GRACE.

    Please stop attempting to place the Christian into bondage that is not applicable in the Covenant of Grace. Leave us alone with your legalism…please stop it?

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  15. Jim Vaughan says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:55 am

    God first made a covenant of grace with Abraham. Galatians 3:16–18 (NKJV): 6 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. 18 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

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  16. Charl Le Roux says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:01 am

    I for one believe every commandment is still applicable and valid accept for animal sacrifice and the priestly order for temple service because there is no temple.
    Look into the book of Acts and you will see 15 years after Jesus and Calvary Paul was advised by James to take a Nazarite vow and to pay for others also taking it this vow involved animal sacrifice and it was done after crucifixion so sacrifices was never atonment for sin it was a shadow pointing towards Christ and the ones done after were pointing back to what Christ has done.
    And so are all the commandments it doesnt really make sense either to say God called something an abomination in the old testament and then Jesus came to change His own rules so we can eat what we like…..
    In otherwords Jesus said dont eat pork then changed His mind on what is holiness and then died on a cross so we can eat pigs…..? that makes a whole lot of sense…..

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  17. Anthony Barber says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:05 am

    If you’re going to keep the law, remember it has to be kept 100% perfect 100% of the time. Has anyone done this?

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  18. Adam Koenig says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:07 am

    Paul deals with it repeatedly in the NT.

    Gal 3, 2 Cor 3, Col 2

    Hebrews 7-10

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  19. Ernest Young says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:07 am

    A few things Stephen.

    I agree that the Law is still active. I disagree in your use or application of scripture pertaining to the Law. For instance: Your statement on mixed fabric. This is explained by Paul when he speaks of marriage by not being yoked with someone that is not a believer. Hence why God in the OT commanded the Israelites to be separated apart from other nations.

    Secondly when Jesus came He raised the standard of the Law. The Law said do not kill. Jesus said if you even think a bad thought about someone you’ve committed Murder. This thought process continues through the NT as it has multiple scriptures based upon how we as Christians conduct ourselves and our thoughts.

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  20. Johny Goodwin says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:09 am

    You need to look at the hebrew word ‘forever’

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  21. Emmanuel Todd says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:10 am

    Nothing is unclean as was revealed to Peter. However in the Old Testament the constitution thus laws and health precautions for the Isrealites were all enshrined in the voice of God. However most of these laws make sense but we are not bounded by them in our times and worship….

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  22. Tommy S. Hancock says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:16 am

    .

    Many of the 613, or something like that, are more along the lines of “good advice,” and a number of the “don’t does” have no punishment associated with “breaking the associated law.”

    Many of the 613, or something like that, are more along the lines of “good advice,” and a number of the “don’t does” have no punishment associated with “breaking the associated law.” For instance, there is no punishment for eating shellfish or wearing a garment made of two materials.

    To see them all go to http://www.jewfaq.org.

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  23. Alex Wong says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:16 am

    look at the teaching of Hebrews and romans kind of deal with many of these… As paul puts it, many of these regulations were to point to something greater (jesus) and were to make you right with God (jesus). Also Jeremiah promises of a new and better covenant… and upon the last supper, notice Jesus passes the cup and says “this is a NEW covenant i give to you…” his blood is a new, a better covenant… Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law (during his life) but to fulfill the law (in his death)… Lastly, Look at the chapter of acts 15… Jewish christians were at odds about gentile believers and so a counsil was made in regards to laws/rules for genilte believers… Peter and all the leaders agreed on 4 rules… avoiding meats sacraficed to idols, strangled meats, consuming blood and sexual immorality (which in a broad term covers most if not all the sexual laws of the jewish law)… That’s it…

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  24. Jackson Lim says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:27 am

    Jesus told of the 2 laws in which all these laws and prophets hangs

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  25. Nikki Sheppick says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:27 am

    What is the difference between the OT and the NT? – https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-difference-between-the-old-and-new-testament/

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  26. Ann Smit says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:30 am

    We do try to eat healthy but bacon and prawns are really delicious and as long as we pray with thanks giving over our food aski f the Lord to sanctify ut to our bodies

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  27. Aaron Macias says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:35 am

    Stephen Ford I don’t think anyone mentioned this specifically but….

    Hebrews 10:1

    For since the LAW has BUT A SHADOW of the good things to come INSTEAD of the TRUE form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. [Only the blood of Jesus can]

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  28. Greg Litz says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:39 am

    Great source for a very thorough study: https://slbc.org/media/sermon-archives/?wpv_view_count=323-TCPID180&wpv-series-event=law-grace&wpv_filter_submit=Search&wpv_paged=2

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  29. Jared Gabrielse Morris says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:53 am

    The vision of peter?

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  30. Victor Van Der Woude says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:53 am

    The laws were a means of testing Jewish faithfulness to G-d and ultimately to show that praxis doesn’t in itself save a person (or rituals sacrifices for sin won’t of been necessary). The Jewish people were also a witness to all people of G-d’s acts in history.
    It’s always been truly based on faith (Moses, David etc sinned yet were loved by G-d – though they did suffer for their sin).

    The New Testament is the fulfillment of the rituals sacrifice for sin through the onetime sacrifice of the Messiah on the cross. The Old Testament Laws are still in place for those who reject Christ – Modern Judaism (though with varied faithfulness to some laws).

    Christians weren’t given the Law. We live by faith and are justified by H-s sacrifice on the cross.

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  31. Christopher S. Poore says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    Who was His audience? The Jewish people. We never were included in that covenant.

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  32. C Cornell Hicks says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    I’m allergic to shellfish. And you know?

    I just recently found out that I have Jewish ancestry. I kinda don’t think it’s just coincidence that can’t eat it…I do think that in the NT, God, in the vision He gave to Peter, gave us permission to eat all foods. However, the fact still remains that most shellfish are bottom feeders and it’s probable that much if what they eat is not good for us… This is just my opinion though…

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  33. Eroni Tulele says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    Everything is permissible but not all are profitable. ….

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  34. Bruce Hooper says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    If this is true Then we must throw out the new testament

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  35. Mazi Godwin Anthony says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    Is there any specific belief that you think which you assumed that contradicted the OT laws?

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  36. Mazi Godwin Anthony says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    Is there any specific belief that you think which you assumed that contradicted the OT laws?

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  37. James C Prinkey III says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    I think it’s better to understand that those laws came from the prophets and kings of Israel, speaking on God’s behalf, and actually breaking Gods own law not to do that.
    All those laws came about in response to different situations. Someone dies after eating pork, so the prophet sees that as God telling us not to….

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  38. Bob Moore says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    HERE’S YOUR EVIDENCE Stephen Ford.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=BIBLE%2C+VERSE+PREDICTING+A+NEW+COVANUNT&ia=web

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  39. Ahliviyah Kay Smith says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    You are on the right track, sir.

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  40. Joseph Geranio says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    Yes. Temporary. Does it have wisdom for the diet of leviticus? Sure. But e

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  41. Olivaire Watler says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    If you remain under that covenant they are forever. Christians are not under that covenant. We have a new covenant. Think of it this way. We have an employment contract that says you are to work for me for the rest of your natural life on these terms and conditions. Five years later I offer you a new contract that your employment will be on new terms and conditions for the rest of your life if you accept it. If you don’t accept it you remain bound by the terms and conditions of the old contract. If you do accept it the old contract has been superseded. Wouldn’t it be silly for a third party to say ”but your old contract said you would work for your boss on those terms and conditions for the rest of your life!”? Surely your answer would be “so what?”.

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  42. Joshua Altamura says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    I believe the OP is asking how the OT’s claims to apply ‘forever’ can be reconciled with Christian teaching that the ‘ceremonial’ laws have been fulfilled – quoting verses that merely state they’ve been fulfilled without explaining how doesn’t seem especially helpful. Off the top of my head I can think of 3 alternative Christian approaches to the cited ‘forever’ statements: (a) the perpetuity is specifically with respect to obedience rather than the exact nature of the commands (allowing God to raise up a new Moses to give a new law, Deut. 18:15-16); (b) The ‘forever’ language is hyperbolic; and (c) These ‘forever’ statements apply to the moral core of the Mosaic law rather than the ceremonial law. On this last point it’s interesting to note that all the verses cited relate either to commands which Christians would still uphold today—such as Deut. 4:40 to the 10 Commandments in ch. 5, and 11:1 to the second tablets in 10:1-11 and the summary of the Law as love for God in 10:12 f, or to idolatry in Deut. 12:1 and 2 Kings 17:37—or, as in Deut. 29:29 and the Psalms, are making general references to the law with no specific commands in view but a general emphasis on God’s faithfulness and nearness (e.g., Ps. 111:8; 119:151), although hyperbolic language also seems consonant with the genre of the Psalms.
    I also think that whether you’re a Christian, Jew or neither, it’s important to look at the reasons underlying a command rather than obeying everything with a wooden literalism (a view which could have resulted in the starvation of David and his men in 1 Sam. 21:6). Many of the OT commands seem intended to set Israel apart as a nation-state with a specific cultural identity, something which naturally would not apply in the same way once the boundaries of God’s people were made coextensive with all humanity. Passages such as Matt. 15:16-20; Heb. 10:1-4 also give reasons why it makes sense to see the ‘ceremonial’ laws as only having a temporary application.

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  43. Jonathan Mitchell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    The 600+ laws didn’t change. Jesus changed the whole game. We are not saved by “acts” but by Jesus. Our good acts are the fruit of being saved by Jesus.

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  44. Derrick Asiedu says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:33 pm

    Among all the text, which people was the s scriptures referring to?

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  45. Manfred Boensch says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    You did not post any scriptures where God talkes to them about a new covenant and that He will place a new heart in them, laws no longer written on tablets of stone but on the heart.

    Christians believe that you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit after redemption. The HS leads us into truth. We are on a road of sanctification and as we walk in the Spirit we no longer satisfy the lusts of the flesh. Keeping the moral laws given by God becomes a natural way of life.
    It is fulfilled in Christ.
    The one major thing that sets Christianity apart from other world religions is that you do not earn your salvation by proving what a good person you are, but you are given salvation as a free gift that you do not have to earn, by grace through faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
    You are then saved for good works as the Spirit leads.

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  46. Anand Gill says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    I good ideas

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  47. Jack Parks says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    Three fold division of the law: Moral, civil, and ceremonial. Civil law applied only to the nation of Israel. Ceremonial dealt with cleanliness in order to enter the temple. The moral law is what stands for Christians today.

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  48. Matthew Jarzembak says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    I see a lot of comments about ”being under the law” Who was the first being that decided he didn’t want to follow YHWH’s teachings and laws? Pick a side and remember this Matthew 7 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that Day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord! Didn’t we prophesy in your name? Didn’t we expel demons in your name? Didn’t we perform many miracles in your name?’ 23 Then I will tell them to their faces, ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’[

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  49. Freddy Jocksand Diaz says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    God only gave 10 commandments. The test were derivative of them and were rules of hygiene, health and morality to a nation that would become a beacon of light to the world. All these rules set standards that were nonexistent in other cultures. Be honest when you post. These laws included social equality, caring for the foreigner, the servants, giving freedom to land animals and people every seven years, it includes rules for food health in a world when there were no hospitals or science or justice. Thanks to the Torah and good use if it, the world became more civilized and prosperous. Because the nations continue to reject these laws and the moral value it provides, is that the World is now back to chaos and anarchy.

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  50. Tracy Pavlik says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    “In fact, the Old Testament repeatedly says all the laws are forever…”

    Your issue in coming to an understanding is in the definition of terms in their original languages; the Hebrew word Olam is, in almost all cases, translated Aión Aiónios etc., so that the two words may be regarded as synonymous with each other.

    In at least twenty cases, the word “olam” is used to refer to events in the past. Therefore, “olam” and “aionios” are quite often used to refer to events that last a very long time, but are not necessarily without end.

    Don’t believe me? Well, according to the Theological Word Book of the Old Testament:

    “The Septuagint generally translates olam by aion which has essentially the same range of meaning. That neither the Hebrew nor the Greek word in itself contains the idea of endlessness [forever] is shown by the fact that they sometimes refer to events or conditions that occurred at a definite point in the past, and also by the fact that it is thought desirable to repeat a word, not merely saying “forever,” but “forever and ever.”…Both words came to be used to refer to a long age or period.”

    And other scholars agree, noting that:

    “Few are so bold as to claim that the Greek adjective ‘aionios’ always suggests ‘infinity in time’—such thinking has been rejected by most modern exegetes.”

    Again, as I have posted before, the context makes the final determination of the meaning of a word but by and large you’ll find “forever” isn’t the original meaning of the text.

    For those in Christ, the Law for righteousness ends and can end because the verses you’ve quoted that show “forever” as a translation are wrong since those instances are not to be understood as “time without end”. Do a survey of olam in the Old Testament and you will see the context clearly shows “forever” is not intended.

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  51. Ikenna Anioji says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    I think that you’re mixing up the eternal commandments of God with the ritual and ceremonial or specific laws given to the nation of Israel.

    In the New Testament, God is revealed as the God and Father of all believers, without any exception due to culture or the effects of location in time and space.

    What things were fulfilled in Jesus are the laws given to Israel as fore-shadows of eternal reality. Otherwise, the eternal laws of God stand forever.

    Even if you read the forever statements literally as they apply to the laws given by God to Israel, it still presents no trouble at all because the Lord Jesus on different occasions showed that God has a plan to fulfil His promises to Israel within the context of the broader fulfillment of his Kingdom promise to all humanity. Jesus once told His disciples that they would, at the culmination of all things, sit on thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

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  52. Patrick McMahon says:
    June 2, 2020 at 12:59 pm

    The Old Testament means the Old “Covenant” just like the New Testament means the New “Covenant.” A Covenant is a binding agreement between two people or parties. God made a Covenant with Israel the was contingent on both sides remaining faithful to their covenant vows. When Israel broke covenant and worshipped another God, God was no longer obligated to keep His end of the deal and He let His temple be razed to the ground because it was contingent and two sided, not a one sided contract. God has offered a New Covenant to Christians. A New Contract. The Old Contract does not apply to us unless we slip back into legalism and prefer to be held accountable to the Old Demands, the Old Covenant. It just so happens that God in His utter perfection and wisdom made the new contract perfectly fulfill the Old Covenant. Please don’t confuse or force any part of the Old Contract with the Entirely New Contract because of similar subject material and terms used in a deeper more profound way. Our High Priest and our New Contract is Superior in all ways!

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  53. Patrick McMahon says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    I should take time to edit a bit but I hardly ever do on my cell phone. Please excuse a few proofreading lapses!

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  54. Girlie Grimaldo Laña says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    Torah . Decalog. Ceremonial law clean and unclean law hkise hold rules etc. Some of them. Arw still in effect but most of the the law are not applicable becahse of 2nd judaism ….. And after the desteuction of the temple. And some of them is applicable only in the jewish pratices

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  55. Terry von Berg says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:11 pm

    I’m not certain but I tend to think that some of those 613 laws were pharisaic laws on how to keep the Mosaic laws. I stand corrected. Mark 7:13 Jesus says to the Jews you nullify the word of God by your traditions, and in Matt 22:37 Jesus gave two commandments on which hang all the other commandments, “love the Lord your God and your neighbour as yourself. Jesus had a way of simplicity as apposed to Jewish complexity. Then by Acts 15:29 the Apostles were only recommending that the gentiles refrain from food offered to idols, blood from strangled animals, and sexual immorality. Later the Apostles clarified that the law was designed to teach us what sin is, therefore in faithfulness to God we should avoid what God declares sin, but our relationship with God is based on faith, believing God for what He has done for its through Jesus death on the cross. Grace is the gift, law is the guide. Paul made it clear that we cannot keep on sinning so that grace may abound, and again the law teaches us what God deems sin, so we cannot justify our habitual or on going sin. Jesus made it plain that only those who do the will of the Father will be saved. So we cannot be cavalier about our sin, that is a dangerous road to travel. Although God will also discipline us to bring us in line with godly living. If we do not undergo Gods discipline from time to time, that should be a reason for concern. God bless. ?

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  56. Bhronda Pinder says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    My faith is Ethiopian Orthodox and I do my best to keep them.

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  57. Carlos Daniel Castillejo says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    In the pre-christ covenant, sinners had to sacrifice a lamb to be cleansed and forgiven. After Christ, sacrificing animals is no longer necessary for the remission of sins. As for the food, Jesus himself said “what comes in (food) the mouth does not defile a man, but what comes out of it, this defiles a man”.

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  58. Arnelle's Page says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    In the Old Covenant, yes. Under the New Coveneant, no. The purpose of the laws were to show that we as God’s children are meant to be set apart – holy – in every aspect of our lives compared to the unbelievers around us, and that God’s Law demands perfection, which we could never obtain due to our innate sin. This would point us to the need of a Savior who could fulfill the entire Law perfectly, Jesus Christ. Paul discusses this throughout Romans, especially in chapters 7 and 8.

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  59. Michael Spicer says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    Most Christians ignore the 10 commandments. Soooooo….

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  60. Stephen Howsare says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    I really feel absolutely no need to reply to this question. ?‍♂️

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  61. Les Kloot says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    Gentile Christians were not compelled to follow the Jewish ceremonial and civil laws. They were instructed to refrain from fornication and they were to remember the poor.

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  62. Colleen Moore says:
    June 2, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    Those laws pertained to the ‘chosen’ people, the ones lead to the land He chose for them. I am not of the ‘chosen” . God wanted All to become chosen so he sent a way to include us all. Through His son.

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  63. Casey Scharven says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    I would comment that when looking at scripture, it is appropriate to look at who is speaking to whom (what people group) and then the time and context of the scripture. Here is a good article: https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/fulfillment-law/

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  64. Ken Whisman says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    But the work that has been given to Jesus is much greater than the work that was given to those priests. In the same way, the new agreement that Jesus brought from God to his people is much greater than the old one. And the new agreement is based on better promises. If there was nothing wrong with the first agreement, then there would be no need for a second agreement. But God found something wrong with the people. He said, “The time is coming, says the Lord, when I will give a new agreement to the people of Israel and to the people of Judah. It will not be like the agreement that I gave to their fathers. That is the agreement I gave when I took them by the hand and led them out of Egypt. They did not continue following the agreement I gave them, and I turned away from them, says the Lord. This is the new agreement I will give the people of Israel. I will give this agreement in the future, says the Lord: I will put my laws in their minds, and I will write my laws on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Never again will anyone have to teach their neighbors or their family to know the Lord. All people—the greatest and the least important—will know me. And I will forgive the wrongs they have done, and I will not remember their sins.” God called this a new agreement, so he has made the first agreement old. And anything that is old and useless is ready to disappear.
    Hebrews 8:6-13

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  65. Thato Masiu says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    Our Lord Jesus Immanuel Christ came to fulfil (complete) the law. No one was able to so He came to do it Himself.

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  66. Kevin Hughes says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    “You” in all those quoted verses is Moses speaking to Israel. Don’t Read someone else’s Mail addressed to them and then think it is about you, a Rule of Interpretation that is often abused.

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  67. Chukwu Amarachi Marcus says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    How can one reading Moses talking to israelite attribute and assume Moses is talking to Christians? Check yourself well.

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  68. R.M. Wilkins says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Matthew 5:17 tells us Jesus came not to destroy the law but to fulfill and so he did and the believer according to Romans chapter 10 verse 4 the believers faith in Christ fulfills the believers obligation to the law

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  69. Donald Bashor says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    We always have been saved by faith and by His grace under both covenants

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  70. Martin Gagnon says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    Through Jesus Christ they are forever.

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  71. Marzé Botha says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    https://youtu.be/tMz41KcYA7g

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  72. Ahliviyah Kay Smith says:
    June 2, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    Yeshua did not “invent” a new religion, but make a new covenant by becoming our final sacrifice, therefore only doing away with the sacrificial system. He said in Matthew that He did not come to do away with the Law and the prophets but to complete/fulfill(observe them all) them. We, as gentiles, were adopted into this family and religion when we believed. When one is adopted, they don’t come in and change the beliefs, ways and traditions of the family. No. They take on the guidelines of that family fir themselves. He is our example as to how to live holy lives, and He followed Torah, He observed the feasts and customs that God our Father established from the beginning. He was sinless.

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  73. John Foster says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    You are overlooking WHO God gave those laws to and why. The Jews were given those laws because they would be living among Gentiles. By following those laws, they would become distinct among the rest of the peoples (and healthier). Added to this, their association with a God that was able to give His followers better outcomes made God more attractive. Look at Jeremiah. When the Jews were conquered, Jeremiah was free to decide for himself where he would go. Look at Daniel. He rose to a high level of responsibility in his conqueror’s government because he remained faithful to a foreign God. The same with Joseph.

    Until Jesus came along, the Jews alone were the object of God’s attention and support. With Jesus, now God brought clarity to those laws and brought out that He was open to all races, not just Jews! When he showed the vision to Peter that Gentiles (and Christian Jews) were not subject to the dietary restrictions that regular Jews followed, we see a difference between non Christians and Christians when they related to God. Galatians points to those differences and Roman’s completed how each group looked at salvation and inheritance.

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  74. Matthew Ellis says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    https://youtu.be/QR7xTYhXEbo
    I’m working so I don’t have time to reply with a more thoughtful answer but I was literally just listening to this about the Hebrew Roots movement and their belief in upholding the OT law and how in light of Christ, and our largely gentile heritage we are free from these laws as all have been fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ and we are now no longer under the law but under grace! It’s a long video but it’s good!

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  75. Dustin Whitaker says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    The word “religion” comes from the Latin word religio which means nothing more than reverence for God. Do Christians have reverence for God? Of course they do, so that can’t be “anti-religion”.

    …than CAN explain why false religions are bad though….

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  76. Stephen Valenta says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    “Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary.”
    ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:19‬ ‭ESV‬‬

    “Until”

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  77. David Madden says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    Mathew 15:11, It is not what man puts in his mouth that defiles him, what comes out ,defiles him. Lord I pray, that you no longer confuse the intelligence of the intelligent, draw back the veil, allow them to recognize your glory! If you are an atheist, agnostic or theist, look at Jesus. God said, if you search for me, with all your heart, you will find ME! God bless.

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  78. Richie Porter says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    God gave Moses the 10 commandments. The other 648 laws were made by men.

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  79. Andrew Beltz says:
    June 2, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    The municipal laws were meant for an ancient Hebrew theocracy that no longer exists.

    Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws so we no longer need to sacrifice bulls and sheep.

    The moral laws still apply to all believers.

    “The law is a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.”
    Galatians 3:24

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  80. Casey Powell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    Matthew 5:17-20. To the contrary

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  81. Tumelo Katane says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    It is pivotal and indispensable to consider the context before trying to understand or interpret the message given.

    Context is key

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  82. Casey Powell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    It’s that most people don’t understand the writing of Paul

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  83. Casey Powell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:03 pm

    Paul writes in support of the Torah in Roman’s 3:31 and Roman’s 7:7

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  84. Chuck Moore says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with all those laws and therefore nothing wrong with keeping them. Some, of course, require the presence of a working temple and sacrifices. I try to keep the Old Testament laws. Doing so makes the Old Testament come alive!!

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  85. Smart Godwin says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    The Lord Jesus is the express images of Jehova who is LORD over all. He promise to send another comforter, which mean somebody just as He is ( the holy SPIRIT). ONE of jobs of the Spirit is to remind us what Jesus did and taught. The Holy Spirit instructed apostle Paul to write that the law is a school master whose mission is preparatory or preparation of the world to have the reality hence the law is a shadow of things to come. Jesus mission was to fulfil the law and the prophets for us.You read that moses and Elijah appear at the mount to see Jesus. These were law,prophet and grace,the formers were ended in Christ , meaning the ineffectiveness of the law over you.

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  86. Beck Margus says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:40 pm

    I am under the impression all of those laws were given because the people were consistently asking for rules to follow. Not that it was necessary, but the psychological desire to have a set of rules was such that that’s what they were given.

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  87. Benji Sheehan says:
    June 2, 2020 at 4:55 pm

    Matthew 22: 36-40. Jesus saying that on these 2 commandments hang all the laws of the prophets.

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  88. Jim Koverman says:
    June 2, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    The most legalistic Christians still wear clothing with mixed fabric. Most wear 100% cotton undergarments with a cotton blend outer garments. So following the original argument is quite hard, if one feels the new covenant does not replace it.

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  89. Tammie Edwards says:
    June 2, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    The Covenant promise of the Old Testament is exactly the same as the New Testament… “Obey me, and I will be your God and you will be my people.” (Jeremiah 7:23) What did change was the sign of the covenant, the people of the covenant, and the atonement method.

    The dietary laws assigned in the Levitical Law (were specifically for the priesthood) as were the others you mentioned about not wearing two different kinds of fabric, not cutting the hair on the side of the head or shaving the edges of the beard. The dietary restrictions were removed in the New Testament through Peter’s vision.

    “Starting from the beginning, Peter told them the whole story: 5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was. 6 I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds. 7 Then I heard a voice telling me, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’ 8 “I replied, ‘Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’ 9 “The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’ ” (Acts 11:4-9 NIV)

    The Messiah changed the access method and atonement method via the Cross. Because He was the final priest and the final sacrifice, we now have direct access to God as symbolized by the torn veil into the Most Holy Place (at the exact time of His sacrifice).

    Does this answer help?

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  90. Marlene Ferguson says:
    June 2, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    Those were Levitical laws for the Levites and priests. It is total legalism to think we have to follow them. What did Jesus says? “Love God and your neighbour as yourself.” That’s the 2 commandments we must follow.

    Read Acts 15, the first church council in Jerusalem, when they laid out the 4 simple rules Gentiles who converted to Christ would have to follow. No mention of the 613 Levitical laws. Don’t be so crazy, and follow Jesus instead!

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  91. Joshua Jenkins says:
    June 2, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    The Book of Hebrews talks about this. Seriously the entire book of Hebrews is about this.

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  92. Lober Bornales says:
    June 2, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    Galatians 5:1-5

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  93. Gerlyn May Glenogo-Diaz Azucena says:
    June 2, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    those laws were given in the first place to the Israelites.
    And please I recommend you to read and study the book of Hebrew. GodBless.

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  94. Ben Peckover says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    Forever doesn’t mean for all time. But for a very long time. As is obvious from this verse below. The temple was destroyed. It was a picture of Christ. Likewise those ceremonial laws.

    “For now I have chosen and consecrated this house that my name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will be there for all time.”
    ‭‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭7:16‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/bible/59/2ch.7.16.esv

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  95. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    Jeremiah 31:31-34 ESV

    “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

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  96. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    Hebrews 9:15 ESV

    Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

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  97. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    Hebrews 8:13 ESV

    In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

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  98. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    2 Corinthians 3:6 ESV

    Who has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

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  99. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    Romans 8:1-39 ESV

    There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. …

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  100. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    Romans 7:6 ESV

    But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

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  101. Carrie David Campbell says:
    June 2, 2020 at 6:49 pm

    We believe Jesus’ death fulfilled the covenant because that’s what the Bible says. See verses above ??

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  102. Jebong B. Garcia says:
    June 2, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    Why where the Apostles considered as the menace to the Pharisees? Because they preach not to adhere the law.
    Romans 4:15
    “Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.”
    The problem of today’s Christianity is most if these man made denominations would love to include something from the old covenant to support a certain concept. What is even worse is use them a a fear tactic to measure one’s spirituality and might be a threat to one’s salvation if not followed well when in fact those laws are specifically for the Jews during that time period.

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  103. Iko Moralde says:
    June 2, 2020 at 7:41 pm

    Colossians 2:16-18 KJV
    Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days : [17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. [18] Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

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  104. Anthony Bryant Sr. says:
    June 2, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    I like what is being said in an attempt to mix or merge the Old and New Covenant, it appears logical and sound at the same time it is not Biblical according to what Jesus and the first century Apostles taught.
    One of the major problems with reading, interpreting, and applying scriptures is we sometimes read the Bible as a proof text to support what we already believe instead of allowing the Holy Spirit to speak to us through the scriptures what it is really saying and mean.

    A good book I would recommend is “How to Read the Bible for all Its Worth” by Gordon D. Fee & Douglas Stuart Tithe Book is non-denominational, objective and on point with the basics on how the Bible should be read, studied, and applied.

    I found a Christian resource link, Gotquestion.org to be a helpful tool to use in doing research and studies on a given topic.

    The Old Testament, the Old Covenant must be read and understood little by little for us to understand the New Testament, The New Covenant.

    .The New Covenant is not a continuation of the Old it is New!
    The New Covenant, Testament does not begin with the Book of Matthew, the New Covenant begins with the blood of Jesus, and “..this is my blood, the blood of the New Covenant. Matthew 26:28
    The foundation of the New Covenant is not the Law(s) of the Old Covenant the Mosaic Laws do not continue in the New Covenant.

    The Old Covenant emphasized a Covenant of works; the New Covenant emphasizes a Covenant of Grace The Old Covenant, became a Covenant of death, the New Covenant is a Covenant of life.

    The commandments of Moses say nothing about obeying Jesus’ commandment of knowing the Father and the Son, John 17;

    Grace is rooted in loving Jesus Christ not in obeying Moses.
    James says if one lives by the law and breaks one of those laws they are guilty of breaking all of the Laws. James 2:10 The Law of Moses includes all of the Laws that cannot cut and slip ice the Law, obey all the Law or none of the Law.

    These laws still stand as a curse to us because no one was able to keep all those laws until Jesus came to complete them, to fulfill them.

    Roman 3; and Galatians 3; speaks of the law as a curse. No one can be made righteous by obeying the laws because they were not designed to be kited; they were temporary until the Messiah had come.
    Hebrews 8; 9; 10; and 11; speaks of these laws, the standard to gain God’s favor as being abolished.
    We can only be made righteous immediately by faith in Jesus through the teaching of the first century Apostles. Ephesians 2; and Galatian 5; and 6;

    Read The Gospel of John 13;, 14;, 15; It is interesting to note not one reference is made to the Law, the Law of Moses which is one and the same, not one reference is made to obeying the Sabbath Laws, or tithing Laws by the Apostles who carried on the teaching of Jesus, why?

    What I said may not make sense if you have not read this scripture.
    Read Roadman 3; 5; and 6; we cannot be saved or have eternal life by obeying the Law of Moses.

    Finally under the Old Covenant immediate death followed to those who were found guilty in not obeying the Law.
    The first five books are the Book of the Law; the Ten Commandments are the table of content to those five books.
    For example, if you did not honor your Father and Mother, the fifth commandment, the Law said if found guilty of not honoring your parents, you were to be killed.

    I have not belonged to one Church who believes in being obedient to the Law, the Old Covent who has killed anyone by breaking those Laws. These Laws were made for the Nation of Israel who was Yahweh’s Covenant people.

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  105. Seth Stanley says:
    June 2, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    The OT ceremonial and purity Laws were specific applications of universal principles meant for the Jews in their particular historical context. The principles underlying those laws are timeless and still applicable to all people at all times. But the specific applications change with time. For instance, boiling a baby goat in its mother’s milk was an ancient pagan fertility worship practice. So when the law says, “don’t boil a baby goat in its mothers milk,” that is a specific application couched in a historical cultural context. The universal principle that still applies is, “Don’t practice idolatry.”

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  106. Eleazar Jaring says:
    June 2, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    Not all law from the OT needs to be followed by the gentiles. Most of it are intentionally for the Jews but even the Jews no longer need to follow other laws such as the sacrificial offerings and prohibition of eating some foods.

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  107. Wendy Beard says:
    June 2, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    You are lumping all kinds of laws together! The New Testament is VERY CLEAR that the Old Testament rituals, ceremonies, and dietary laws were TEMPORARY and do not need to be observed by Christians. Neither does the sabbath. But MORAL laws ARE ETERNAL such as the other 9 Commandments of the 10, Basically read the New Testament. Whatever is commanded in the New Testament is what we are to follow. Whatever is NOT commanded in the New Testament is no longer a commandment. Only exceptions are some rules in epistles that were cultural for only certain churches and cultural situations such as how to dress, women be silent… for that culture and day.

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  108. Danny Wilder says:
    June 2, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    (Matthew 5:17-18) “¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. {18} For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”

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  109. Michael White says:
    June 2, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    We must remember that there are three types of law: moral law (Ten Commandments, etc), civil law, and ceremonial law. When Jacob and his sons moved to Egypt in response to the famine so they could be under Joseph’s care, they were there approximately 400 years. By the time of the Exodus, they had grown into the nation of Israel and were in bondage to the Egyptians, who had forgotten Joseph.

    Many of the Levitical laws (eating shellfish, planting two crops in the same field, etc) don’t make a lot of sense to us today; but God was training the Israelites to be His people. Many of those prohibitions were things the Egyptians did in the worship of their pagan Gods. Some others were things the Canaanites were doing in their pagan rituals. God was trying to distance the Israelites from pagan customs. Many of the laws also had sanitary usefulness!

    In Acts 10, Peter saw a sheet coming down with foods that were considered unclean by Jewish law; but God told Peter to rise and eat. When Peter objected because the animals were unclean, God reprimanded Peter and told him not to call unclean what He (God) called clean.

    The law was, and is, very important as it shows us what God expects in the way of moral behavior! It also is important in that it clearly shows our need for a savior! No man can keep all the law! James tells us that if we could keep all the law and yet stumble in one point, then we are guilty of all.

    The bottom line, and this may be somewhat of an oversimplification, if an OT law is repeated in the NT, it still pertains to us today!

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  110. Dennis Lee says:
    June 2, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    The OT was a covenant with Israel. The NT is a covenant with the church. Simple as that. The Israelites did not honor their part of the covenant, therefore nullifying it.

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  111. Shari Young says:
    June 3, 2020 at 1:08 am

    Answer my question!
    But don’t answer my question!

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  112. Chris Krumlauf says:
    June 3, 2020 at 1:12 am

    Context. Context. Context.

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  113. William Clark says:
    June 3, 2020 at 1:51 am

    Ok, don’t know if this helps, but there IS a difference between the commands and statutes of then and now.

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  114. William Clark says:
    June 3, 2020 at 1:52 am

    This doesn’t NEGATE the OT, but actually fulfills it. We (believers) can’t negate ANYTHING in the OT since we constantly refer to the 10 commandments and they’re only given in the OT.

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  115. Donald Brillo says:
    June 3, 2020 at 3:25 am

    Do heaven and earth still EXIST, ?
    if Yes, therefore the moral law has continuing validity.

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  116. Donivan Felty says:
    June 3, 2020 at 7:28 am

    There is nothing wrong with the law

    The law is still in effect today and for all time.

    Christ came to fulfill the law. Totally. Finally. Completely.

    When we accept Christ, we do not suffer the consequences of breaking the law because Christ took that upon himself

    For the person who does not accept Christ, he will be judged by and condemned by the law .

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  117. Samuel Mwaluvanda says:
    June 3, 2020 at 9:42 am

    It seems you’re an SDA member. Who told the SDA that Saturday is Sabath Day, where is found in the Bible.

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  118. Samuel Mwaluvanda says:
    June 3, 2020 at 9:44 am

    If you follow the law then you need the temple and the priests. You SDA can you show the temple where you go to worship. Can show the priests who serve on the Sabath Day.

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  119. Samuel Mwaluvanda says:
    June 3, 2020 at 9:45 am

    By the way SDA means people who expect to enter the Sabath. This means you’re not in Sabath yet

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  120. Kate Marie Wendi says:
    June 3, 2020 at 10:03 am

    613. One broken all. We can’t even keep the 10 commandments!

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  121. Charles Weskirchen says:
    June 3, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    The purpose of the law was to be a school teacher. To reveal sin, man would not know sin unless it was revealed by the law. It shows us our wretched condition, then we can receive the grace of our GOD. The atoning work of the cross and CHRIST.

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  122. Jonathan Lawal says:
    June 3, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    Those laws were contextual. Those commandments were meant to guide a particular set of people which were the Israelites. The Israelites were to obey those laws always and forever. That era has passed and this is a new one which we are no longer under the guidance of the Law but of grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

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  123. Cornelius Steyn says:
    June 3, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    Stephen Ford. If the new testament in Revelations tells you of the two witnesses. It says it all. They are the LAW and the PROPHETS , the only two things that can defeat and in Holiness , defend Israel against the Antichrist. For the Jews all these still apply , since the Jews are still Jews , Right>? paul explained he had a different gospel not opposing gospel, many times stating (I not the LORD) .This was the gentile remnant that would come to FAITH , and could not be expected to follow MOSES. Then the verses you quate are all that the new testament Jews followed, there was not yet a written Matthew-Revelations for them. Do not knock on the wrong door. the one of so called contradictions. THe jewish mind is and ,and . not cause and effect. I in return do not KEEP the laws , but i adhere to the LAWGIVER , that does not excempt me in the last days, when they Jew and Gentile ,become one , from what he tells me to DO from the TANACH

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