Quintus Septimus Florens Tettulianus was the man who contrived the idea of the Trinity. The Trinity is not biblical. If you don’t believe prove me wrong.
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John 7:17..the attitude you approach this with shows you are not ready to accept the truth of Scripture. You come arrogantly and thus must leave arrogantly and ignorant of God’s truth. Please read all of Scriptures again with an open mind to the trinity, and then let me know what you think…If you post back tomorrow I will assume you haven’t read it all again yet. God speed!
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Really? So when Jesus is baptized the Holy spirit descended and God the Father spoke and Christ was there. And you want to believe what you posted? I don’t see how.
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The trinity is preached in the bible. It’s not explicitly called the trinity but the deity of the father, son, and holy spirit being three persons in one being called God is rampant in the new testament.
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Amen. God reveals Himself as Father in creation, Son in redemption and Holy Spirit in regeneration. One God, one center of consciousness. One person. Different modes and manifestations only. This is the doctrine of the Jews and Apostles ?
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The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God he is the Spirit of truth meaning He cannot lie, only God cannot Lie so He the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus was the word sent from the bosom of the father Father. The word that was with God in the beginning and was God and was sent into the body of a man Jesus, he was the word of God made to be flesh and as John said and was God and all things were made by him “the word who was God” in the beginning with God in him was life and the life “in him” was the light of all men.
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John 14:9-11
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. -
I and my Father are one. You must be a JW.
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Trinity was and is a great debate long before. But take a minute to meditate, the concept is with the pages of the bible. Don’t argue with words but with its truth.
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
John 1:2-3 NIVIt’s not hard to understand.
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I’ve been here for 3 days, what’s with all the anti Trinity posts? If you read the Bible you wouldn’t need convincing. Prove to me there isn’t a Trinity?
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And tell me why believing in the Trinity is somehow wrong.
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The Trinity is Logical, and necessary.
God because of His attributes, needs to interact indirectly with the creation; Jesus Christ, received the power over the Creation, as the First Created being. Holy Spirit is seen in Old Testament coming temporary over some godly people.Please, Stop the arrogance.
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A few million more people contrived the idea of the trinity…believers who know their bibles
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The sons of Ismael have no standing to preach from scripture for they do not believe the gospel at all.
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Yet, the Qu’Ran says to believe the Bible, and the Bible says that Allah is a false god
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The Trinity is specifically discussed in the Bible, especially in the Gospels by Christ himself.
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Other people contrived the trinity .,… those who know there Bible .
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How do you account for references to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the text?
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As long as you accept scriptures teaching that there is only one God and that God is referred to as father, Son and Holy Spirit independently and together without contradiction, call what you will , it’s the truth of the Scripture.
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Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Genesis 1:26 ESVLet US make man in OUR own likeness
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:1-3 ESVThe word was WITH God and WAS God. These verses are just a couple that speak of the “plurality” of God
Countless verses speak of the Father. We know that Jesus is God, but not the Father. We have a plethora of verses talking about the Holy Spirit who is neither the Father not the Son. We know that there is only one God. The concept of the Trinity is all throughout scripture, the word Trinity is a human word to encompass the concept. There are many of these words. Soterology, ecleseology, epistemology, federal headship. These are words to describe biblical truths or concepts.
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Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
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Trinity is false The one true Holy Eternal Spirit which is God manifests himself in the flesh of the Son. If you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father. To wit that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself. Jesus is now in a Spiritual eternal body and says that he alone dwells in the light which no man can approach. Jesus Christ is our Father our Creator Our saviour Our Lord and Holy Spirit in us. One person not three
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The concept of the ‘Trinity’ or the ‘Triune’ personhood of the ONE GOD we worship was first revealed by one of those three persons – The Lord Jesus Christ. Every discussion on the Trinity essentially begins from there.
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Yeah the bible doesn’t explicitly say God is omnipotent but you’re able to deduce it from context, same with the trinity, the saints and whatnot just solidified the doctrine and made it easy to understand but it’s all in scripture
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The trintity has no place in the bible Oneness know who God is and worship him in Spirit and in truth. And we know his name Jesus Christ he is our Father He manifested the invisible Father in the son/flesh and he is the Holy Spirit in believers One God One person One Lord One throne
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Ask and you will be shown verses from the Bible that supports the Trinity,but don’t ingnorantly assume and conclude that it isn’t in the Bible,the idea of the triune God is in many places in the Bible.
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The word Trinity as stated is not found in Scripture but is clearly deduced from a sincere reading of the Old and New testaments. It is a good and necessary consequence of Scripture. I assure you that The Church fathers did not flippantly use the phrase but did so after much study in fear and trepidation so as not to seem as polytheists which is exactly what many early Christians were martyred for in protest.
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Pretty clear here:
Acts 7:55–56 (NASB95): 55 But being full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God;
56 and he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened up and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” -
The word “Trinity” itself could not be found in the Bible but Jesus Himself explicitly stated the 3 personalities of the GODHead..
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Okay so if we lined up so called trintity verses we would have no more than five If we line up oneness verses we literally have hundreds in every book
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You can dispense with the short-hand word and use the long-term when discussing this concept…. the Bible is about a multi-dimensional Supreme being, the creator of the cosmos trying to make contact with a three – dimensional earthling… see 1John 5:6-8 “This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.(KJV)”; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6kn6nXMWF0
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It seems Alkali has left the building. Didn’t even say goodbye lol!
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Alalki since you posted this statement, suppose YOU prove you are right!
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It isn’t biblical. At least not the trinity of one God in three equal persons…
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Read Gen 1, Matt 28 and the bible
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Documentation for your faulty claim, please?. What does Isaiah 48:16, Matt. 28:19-20; 2 Cor. 13:14 if these don’t teach a Trinity then the Bible contains blasphemy. 3 coequal persons in these 3 verses performing the work of God. They are either God or there is an attributing to man God qualities and blasphemy. Check your misinformation at the door.
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Trinitarians believe three verses make a doctrine Lol unbelievable
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Some explain how you can be a Christian (believing Jesus is God, thus his sacrifice actually being ultimate) and not be trinitarian. All apostles and early church fathers believe in the father being God, the son being God, the holy spirit being God. Hence the trinity.
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In reality an in depth study of scripture shows clearly their is one God who can take on whatever form He chooses. If He couldn’t He wouldn’t be all powerful. Melchezidech was with out father and mother had no beginning and Abraham paid a tenth of his tithes to him. He was God in the flesh. Adam walked and talked with God in the garden where there was the “tree of life” Jesus is the tree of life. The burning bush, the cloud by day , the fire by night are all examples of God appearing here to show something to His people. Omnipresent , invisible , eternal are a couple of Gods unchanging qualities. His is able stir the pot so to say and intervene by putting His Hand or finger in the mix. But that finger of God is not all of the omnipresent Holy Spirit. When Jesus was here He was limited in the body of a man and He was teaching everything we need to know in order to be a Christian including how to pray . Even being baptized and anointed of the Holy Spirit. All this was done for our sake to show the pattern of good works.
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King James Version 1john5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Might not say the word trinity but it is definitely implied that the three of them are one. -
I am not a trinitarian however it was NOT tertullian who contrived the idea of the trinity….
Theophilus was the first to refer to a trinity
In like manner also the three days which were before the luminaries, are types of the Trinity [Τριάδος], of God, and His Word, and His wisdom. And the fourth is the type of man, who needs light, that so there may be God, the Word, wisdom, man.
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Father son and Holy Ghost
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In the name of the father the son and the Holy Ghost, what is that name? Son is not a name , neither is father , or the Holy Ghost , His name is Jesus it is the name by which we are saved!
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The never ending debates in the entire history of mankind..this could be hard to understand specially the unregenerated person that it takes the grace of God to open their understanding and keep awe in reverence to God….
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The word “Trinity”, alone, is unbiblical. Prove me wrong!
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You can’t find it in the bible trinity word.but the essence of the Son.Jesus Christ .the Father.and the Holy spirit.
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The book of John numerous references
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Trinity been around since Genesis through the tabernacle and the 1st century church. As you read this you see it first , read it in your head or out loud 2nd. Then comprehend it 3rd trinity all around you
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Mark 1:9-12
[9]It came to pass in those days that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan.
[10]And immediately, coming up from the water, He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove.
[11]Then a voice came from heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Satan Tempts Jesus
[12]Immediately the Spirit drove Him into the wilderness. -
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