I’m a believer (in Christ) and I’m addressing fellow believers here. I’ve just read a few responses in THIS forum where a believer actually dismissed the dismissal of an atheist because evidence that the atheist did NOT find compelling enough was taken off the table by the atheist. Something that WE (believers) have GOT to keep in mind is that what is convincing and compelling in one person’s mind is NOT always the same way or even close in someone else’s mind. Look at Gideon who was a coward that God STILL used and Gideon kept “moving the goal posts”. God even had compassion on Gideon and met Gideon on Gideon’s terms in order to use Gideon effectively. That is only 1 example of God adjusting to meet someone on their terms so that God would be glorified in the end. In the process of attempting to convince people, we mistakenly argue and even tell people that information/evidence that WE (believers) have brought to the table is INDEED compelling and even go as far as to insult the atheist since they don’t draw the same conclusion. Not only is this wrong, it’s insulting to the atheist as WELL as the Kingdom of God and does a tremendous amount of damage that SOMETIMES can’t be undone. Seriously?? I DO know that while Romans 7 (talks about the war between the spirit and the flesh and how us believers are still subject to the flesh) is there for a reason, but the LACK of fruits of the spirit are just as compelling to many as the presence of those same fruits.
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I get that alot of believers become hurt or offended by the repsonses of athiests,or see it as attacks (reviling,slanderous )and it harms them.
I think this is a two way streetwether believer or non believer should eitherhave a healthy discussion /debate or rather the stirer (believer or non believer) to be either censured/corrected or rather blocked/removed from the discussion.We sometimes need to be firm in faith and also stern on teachings,but not become agitators or aggresors for thesake of pride
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The blind can’t see and the deaf can’t hear, generally by choice. ?♂️
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But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
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Check this out. A man argues with another man about the color of pain on a wall. Seemingly pretty straight forward, right? “This wall is OBVIOUSLY red.” The other guy “I can’t say I agree. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying I can’t agree with you. I don’t have enough information to. The first guy, “Are you freaking KIDDING ME??? You’ve got to be an idiot not to see that this wall is CLEARLY painted red!!!!! Idiot!!!!!” The other guy tries to respond but the emotion of the first guy is out of control at this point so the 2d guy (who doesn’t have enough information to agree) sits there calmly waiting for his turn to talk. The first guy, “What is it going to take for you to actually ADMIT and CONCEDE that the wall is most DEFINITELY RED?????!!!’ The 2d guy takes a deep breath and calmly responds “Color perspective. I’m color blind”.
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