Is Judas Ischariot predestined by the God to act as betrayer to fulfill the prophecy of Christ’s Crucifixion, Death and Resurrection?
(Because without betray by Judas Ischariot Crucifixion, Death and Resurrection of Jesus may or may not be happened.)
If Yes, then Judas Ischariot also did as per God’s plan or will.
So the question is that whether Judas Ischariot is with Jesus or not?
Whether Judas was redeemed or not?
Where is the Judas place Hell or Heaven?
Is Judas destined to Hell by God Himself or not?
He would have found another way. But be drives history to the consequences he desired and can depend upon human sin to do wrong which God turns to his own ends. THMhe human thus remains guitly of sin but God saves day for his own good. REMEMBER we are born broken sinners already condemned. Only God can work his good.
There are many views on this. A Calvinist would say “yes, God causally determined Judas to betray Jesus”. While my view on this is that, God knew that if Judas was placed on the circumstance he was placed at that time, he would freely betray Jesus, so God decreed then to put Judas on that circumstance. That’s not the end of it though, after that, he could’ve freely discontinued his unbelief just like what Peter did, but he freely committed suicide instead
He knew who it would be who would be the betrayer
John 17:12
While I (Jesus) was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition (Judas); that the scripture might be fulfilled.
He was prophecied …and appointed
Just like pharaoh, he was brought up for the very purpose.
I also wonder. Could have Judas felt so bad for what he did that he repented and accepted christ before he hung himself?
Judaw had every opportunity to repent and believe the gospel, but never did
Yes, he was! It was his predetermined role!
Gods will shall be accomplished no matter what…
Judas Ischariot was the main person who prepared and filled the purpose of God. He made the way for Jesus to go to on the Cross at Calvary mountain so that Jesus was Crucified. And, Jesus proclaimed on the Cross saying,”It is finished”. Jesus strongly advocated that saying,”I have overcomed the World” after His Death and Resurrection. I personally deeply believed that Judas Ischariot will be awared the most highest price in Heaven because The Holy Bible itself said that the graves opened a while Jesus was crucified on the Cross and also after His resurrection there were the saints (those who repents of their sins) those who resurreted, also.
I know that if there are cookies on the kitchen table…my child will eat them.
I think he was. I also believe Peter was in a sense predestined to deny Jesus. But the main difference is Peter turned back.
The simple answer is yes. Jesus said he did everything the Father asked. Therefore, Jesus knew who the Father would draw to him and and Jesus never questioned his Father.
Judas had the choice to make, but God knew what choice Judas would make.
The people who wrote the new testament probably didn’t think this through. ?
God who knows the heart everyone knows the heart of Judas from the foundations of the world.
The fact that it was all foreordained does not excuse Judas or absolve him from the punishment he would suffer for his part in the drama. Judas made his own choices, and they were the source of his own damnation. Yet the choices fit perfectly into the sovereign plan of God. God controls not only the good but also the evil of man to accomplish His own ends. Judas traveled with Jesus for nearly three years, we know He also gave Judas ample opportunity for salvation and repentance. Even after his dreadful deed, Judas could have fallen on his knees to beg God’s forgiveness. But he did not. He may have felt some remorse born of fear, which caused him to return the money to the Pharisees, but he never repented, preferring instead to commit suicide (Matthew 27:5-8).
JUDAS WAS NOT PREDESTINATED By God to Betray Jesus, BUT ONE OF THE Disciples was Predestinated, NO NAMES WERE Given, by giving place to the Devil, Judas Fulfilled that Prophecy… And I believe that Judas is in Heaven right now, because after Jesus Died, he went to hell and Ministered the Gospel and I believe him of folk was the first to repent…
On Molinism, God has knowledge of what people would freely do in any given circumstance. That means that he can place you into any position that would lead to an outcome that he desires but it’s still genuinely your choice. If Judas wouldn’t have betrayed Jesus, God would have foreknown it and therefore not put him in that position. So he can be both predestined in a way but have been free to NOT betray Jesus. Similar to when Jesus told Peter that he would deny him. If Peter wouldn’t have denied Jesus, then Jesus wouldn’t have said it. Our free choices are logically prior to Gods foreknowledge of those choices. Not the other way around. His knowledge of our choices don’t MAKE them our choices. Does that make sense?
This also means that Judas was free to repent following his betrayal. Did he repent? I’m guessing no but I’d like to hope for it.
That leaves the question of whether or not God set him up for failure. Well…I’m not sure. Even if he did, it could still be said that it was Judas’ free decision to betray God. That leads us into interesting topics but that’s my view on Judas specifically.
Interesting question!
yes, Jesus said, didn’t I choose all of you and one of you is a devil.
I believe the answer is in Acts chapter 1 verse 17 to 20.
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Read romans.
God is outside time. Why did Jesus say “before Abraham was, I am”. Knowledge regarding what someone will choose to do does not predetermine individual choice. Rather, God choreographs events using what He knows choices will be.
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God didn’t leave anything to chance when it comes to fulfilling His plan. Judas was predestined to betray Jesus and he is not in heaven.
Judas died in sorrow and guilt for his betray, not in repentance. Therefore, he’s not in Heaven and he had every chance to call upon The Lord for mercy and forgiveness but he did not.
You got it all twisted. God knows all things, He knew what Judas Iscariot would do. That doesn’t mean He is in heaven. It also doesn’t mean that Judas acted out God’s purpose. He acted moved by sin, betrayal is not something God would plan, He just allows it. It was Judas Iscariot’s will to do what he did as well as taking away his life. No, he is not in heaven.
Well Jesus said it would be better for a millstone to hang around his neck and for him to be thrown into the see than suffer what he will suffer (speaking of Judas). Please don’t confuse foreknowledge with predestination. God knew he would do it but he didn’t make him do it. Please do not start the “why was he born argument either as that has the same answer. Foreknowledge is not predestination
Only God knows
Unrepentance will take to hell, not by the size of our sin… Did Judas repented or just a remorse… Directive will of God- God is responsible and for Permissive will of God- the doer is responsible. Point is God willed all thing but in two ways. For the act of betraying Jesus was initiated by Judas with his corrupted and sinful nature but also God permit his action and overrun the sinful act for his own glorification.
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God knows every man’s heart and God knew what choice Judas would make if put in that situation. The choice was ultimately his to make, but God already knew the kind of person he was and God, being outside of time, already knew Judas would betray.
Christ read his heart. He knew he would betray. That is a huge difference in the assumption God was making a plot to be betrayed.
No, it was not predestined!
I’d say we need to assess things before limiting Gods power to a scheme when it is far greater. Christ’s KNOWLEDGE was so great that our LIMITED LITTLE MINDS attribute it to destiny.
The Judas argument…I say he betrayed god for Silver.
The tribe of Dan betrayed God for silver and if you look-they aren’t in revelation in that number. They are replaced! Just as Judas was replaced!!!
But on the back side…Judas could have known with all his heart that Jesus was Lord. And had faith that his action would not stop him. But why did he hang himself!
I have prayed thanks over the lords supper for Judas and the beating and torture of Christ-because it proves mans evil can not overcome Gods Grace in Love. He is forever lord.
Just because God knew what choice Judas would make did not take away his free will. He made a choice to betray Jesus. We know he had remorse because he gave the money (his prize) back to the Jewish leaders. Forgiveness was available to him, but we are not told if he asked for it. He was so distraught, he killed himself. I like to think that he cried out to God before he took his own life, but the Bible does not give us that fact.
The Bible calls Judas Iscariot, traitor, devil, deamon and it says he always took money from the offerings of the apostles for himself so he was a thief as well and he commited suicide dying a terrible death.
I don’t think He is in heaven. Scripture clearly expressed that He never repented for what he did.
Hell. Not predestine though.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17..
The Lord knew before Judas birth he was in the might not.
Remember Judas was with Jesus. Which meant Judas was in the presence of the living God and felt no conviction at all.
He was hell bent on his evil agenda.
That proved his heart waxed cold.
Jesus knew satan entered before Passover.
Between then and Jesus and the 12 coming together and after Judas betrayed Jesus Judas could have repented.
The scripture revealed Judas has no intent on changing.
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