It is written, 1st John 5:18, 1st John 3 verse 9, whoever is born of God (cannot sin). Do you believe this, or do you add your own words to these two scriptures, whoever is born of God does not practice does not continue to sin?
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It is also written he who says that he has no sin is deceived and a liar (james)
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Again there’s acts of sin like stealing and the act of not believing the gospel
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Yes. This means does not continually without remorse and conviction
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What is Sin?
The bible say that,” if any man is in christ , he is a new creation, old things are passed away.”
That means he becomes a totally new being that never existed before.
Sin is not part of the nature of the new creature in Christ.
We have put on the nature of God. We Can’t Sin as God doesn’t Sin.
Sin is not in the vocabulary of the new creation in Christ Jesus.
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1 john 1 sin is transgression of the law
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Falling short of God’s glory.
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What is the sin nature?
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Galatians 5
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It’s nice you define sin but Christ died for sins rejecting his sacrifice is the ultimate that can not be forgiven so I’ll side with God’s definition thank you
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Actually Paul by the holy spirit defined it in romans 3:23
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The text could not mean Christian don’t sin at all. That is silly
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Well, in light of 1 John 1:9 – “If we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins,” one has to wonder if these verses are not just outright contradictions or must be interpreted with subtle nuances.
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Ok that is why your ability to exegetical read the text is poor. Perhaps you study a little more. This is not the hill to die on for that point.
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It means what it says.
Whoever is born of God CANNOT sin.
It has nothing to do with whether or not some sins with or without remorse or whatever.
Whosoever is born of God cannot sin.
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If in mans view its impossible but in God, nothing shall be impossible. It is not our’s its by God to judge and to forgive.
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I guess 1 John 2:1 would have to be explained then.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:1 KJV -
What it proves is that the life they and we… Live(d) in the flesh isn’t born of God.
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1 John 1: 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9+ If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.Context is everything!
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We sin but God still loves us and does not put us away
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Can you fall from Grace? Dont pick up a verse and try to make a point.
Can you post the whole chapter??? -
1 John 5:18 the word ‘sin’ is 264 in Strong’s. It is defined as “to miss the mark (and so not share in the prize). So, when you plug this definition into this verse it says, “everyone having been born of God does not miss the mark (and so not share in the prize). It does NOT say that one born of God is sinless, only that sin is not able to make the those born of God miss sharing in the prize of salvation.
1 John 3:9 “…everyone begotten of God does not sin (266 offend, trespass) because the seed of God remains (3306 abide) in him; and he is not able to sin (264 ‘to miss the mark (and so not share in the prize). Same goes for this verse. God’s grace covers those who remain/abide in Him and prevents us from missing out on salvation.
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When it says “does not practice sinning”, it means he do not live sinning but can actually sin but not intentional. Some Preachers are changing the real meaning of this passage.
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Ed weems I believe in the word of God, what you mentioned from John is true and I believe it is possible by the Holy Spirit.
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Romans 8 1:9 describes the same life in christ
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If we cannot sin, why would John say in 1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness”?
But even more important, why would he say in 1 John 1:10 “If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar, and his word is not in us.”?
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Why can’t we live a life as written because we didn’t receive the Holy Spirit, same as that God promised through Jesus Christ. Acts 15: 7-9
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1Jo.1:10 if we say we have no sin we make Him a liar and the truth is not in us, Ro.3:23 SAYS we all sin and come short of the glory of God, with the exception of Jesus all the men of God in SCRIPTURE SINNED including Paul and Peter and so on, any honest Christian will tell u they sin, we ate part sinner andnpary saint
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The sin john is talking about is sin of unbelief , continue to rejection of Christ, the content of the letter against gnostic , they dont believed Jesus came from God
he doesnt mean that Christian will not commit sin by contratry in ch 1:8-10 if we confess our sin he is faithful and just to forgive us -
I read those verses as “does not,” not “can not.” There’s a difference. L&P
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It means that your sin is paid for by Grace. It is not counted against you. But remember that God knows your heart and this is not meant to be a free get of jail card for sinning. Your heart is judged by the way you feel and believe. I was saved when I was like 12 years old, but was a hellion of a child. Later in life, about 43 years of age , I came to Christ and I know Him and He knows me and my heart VERY well. I am truly dedicated, but no one knows but God. I know people see a difference in my actions, but ONLY God can judge the heart. My sins are ALL forgiven, not just some.
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does not keep on sinning;
ἁμαρτάνει (hamartanei)
Verb – Present Indicative Active – 3rd Person Singular -
Not believing is the sin in question that’s the one that leads to eternal death
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We have the new man(of God) and we have the old man(flesh, Devil).
“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.”
Romans 7:25, KJV -
I don’t add my own words to these Scriptures, but I do use other Scriptures to help me interpret these accurately.
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The tenses in Greek are key to understanding the passage rightly.
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Really
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No born again believer lives in sin but may likely fall to sin. There is a difference between leaving in sin and falling to sin. Leaving in sin means that sin is your lifestyle, you enjoy it and you done see anything wrong with it. And no believer leave this way. Falling to sin means you mistaking commit sin and immediately you are sorry and repent from the sin. This can happens to a believer.
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If we say that we do not sin we are liars..
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Of course Christians commit sins, but we can ask God to forgive us, and then we continue serving Him. God has freed us from our slavery to the enemy and keeps us safe from the enemy continued attacks. The rest of the world does not have a believer’s freed to obey God.
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Why didn’t God do this for Adam so the fall never takes place ?
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Free will
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