What right have we got as Christians to split the law into moral, ceremonial and civil?
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Our prime focus is on God’s character and not the laws. Our focus is on Love, as God is love.
The Apostle Paul describes the Law as Israel’s teacher. (Gal 4:1 -7). The Law is not “binding” on Christians today as Law. God’s Law has not expired. For through love, the higher ideal, we express our love through His law. We want to obey His laws. We also are convicted when we do sin by breaking His laws. -
It is set up like that in Leviticus
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Do you seek to apply scripture besides the New Testament?
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that’s how they were set up by Jews in OT. Now only Moral law.
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You shall not admire someone’s wife. How could do you identify such criminal and how to punish it???. Law is applied personal forexample, You shall not. We have to fulfill it through a man who never broke one of them and is Jesus christ.
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We are told to rightly divid tge truth. Law and Gospel. They are not the same in their import in our lives as Christiimans who told to.live by faith and not works. Works have a place but not in the righteousness that avails before God as Christians wbo live by faith.
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The right of common sense
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None
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Rightly dividing the word or God is a principal. So establishing the purpose of certain laws is part and parcel of that.
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The tripartite divion of the law is like the Trinity . 3 parts all connected .
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“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children” Hosea 4:6 (Old Covenant under Moses)
“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. – New American Standard Version (1995) And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, `even’ Jesus Christ. – American Standard Version (1901) ( New Covenant, New Commandments under the Lord Jesus the Christ) John 13; through John 17:1-12
These two Covenants appear to be the same or as some may claim an extinctions of the Old Covenant, once examined although some moral codes overlap they are distinguished and different with a new set of laws, called the law of Grace or law of Christ. Galatians 5; and 6;
We are encouraged to read the Bible but not taught how God designed, preserved, inspired and structured it to be read, studied, interpreted, and to be understood through the guidance of the Holy Spirit whose task is to lead and guide us into all truth, the truth Jesus taught his disciples and their mission to live and to proclaim the Gospel
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Identifying types of law isn’t splitting it. I’m guessing if we identify the types of books in the Bible into historical, wisdom, apocalyptic, you would give the same accusation?
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You mean what right do we as Christians have to use our brains, study to show ourselves approved, and rightly divide the word of God? We’re commanded to. It has nothing to do with rights.
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Don’t confuse the law given as part of the covenant to Israel with God’s universal law. Each of the 10 commands are given by Paul to the Body except the Sabbath.
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I think it’s called discernment
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This question is another trap.
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We don’t separate the laws, scripture does. There were laws specifically given to the Jews while under the first covenant.
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What are the consequences of sin for the believer? What does the believer have to fear from sin?
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Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.
John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
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Scripture doesn’t, as far as I can tell. I’ve never seen anything that said anything like ‘some laws you can ignore’ or ‘these are the ceremonial laws; they don’t have the same weight as the other laws.’
I’ve heard it plenty of times from those that want to establish their own righteousness by keeping ‘the law’ without acknowledging that they physically cannot keep all the law (no temple, just for starters) even though Scripture plainly says that if you break any of it, you’re guilty of all of it.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.We are not at this time under any laws whatever, other than the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
Ram 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.So. I see nothing in Scripture itself that says ”This is one type of law, and this is another type of law. You can break the latter, it really doesn’t matter.”
The division of the law into classes is the result of a man-made tradition created by folks who didn’t know what gospel they were operating under or who were offended by the cross and wanted God’s approval based on what they did or did not do and not solely on what Christ did.
Not knowing who our apostle is (or isn’t) creates a wealth of problems; this is just one of ’em, and it’s a common one.
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Because it is only the moral law that gentiles are ever judged for in scripture.
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It’s called, rightly handling the Word of Truth as we seek to understand what God wants us to know.
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Christians don’t split the law. It’s how God made the law. It’s like asking what rights do Christians have to impose God’s wrath into Jesus.
We don’t. God does. We just read the words.
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Why did Jesus call the Bible Moses and the Prophets if it wasn’t okay to classify the difference?
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Where in scripture can we find the moral and ceremonial law?
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I think we are doing our best systematize and categorize the scriptural data in the NT. For example, Hebrews tells us that we must no longer offer animal sacrifices. Acts and the Pauline epistles tell us that the laws requiring circumcision and abstention from unclean animals do not apply to gentile Christians. When the Rich Young Ruler asked Jesus which particular commandments he must be mindful of to have eternal life he didn’t say all of them. “If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” 18He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” These are all moral requirements. We see the moral code of the Law being applied in the NT.
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Rather than split anything, the Holy Spirit moved the Apostles to specify exactly which Laws were binding on us as Gentile believers. They sent out letters to the Churches in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, stating: “For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.” (Acts 15:28-19).
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None the law is one.
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We are not bound to the Law, we are bound to Christ. The Law was our schoolmaster until Christ was revealed.
Our marching orders are in the New Testament. Christ reiterated and internalized the parts of the Law that apply to us. -
There is the spirit of the law and the letter.
Jesus said every jot and tittle is here to stay but He did not say that the letter can supersede the Spirit. In fact, He pointed out that David broke the law for a good reason by eating consecrated bread.
Why? Because the bread is for our good. So it would be ludicrous to follow the law where it does not help our inner man. -
good question. I don’t think we do have this right.
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It’s a loaded statement . Why not ask a question instead
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Christians are guided by the Bible. The Bible is our “users manual.” We are suppose to obey it.
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Because reasons?
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We live by grace and have been redeemed by the amazing grace of God.
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Because the ceremonial law was Just for isreal to set them apart from the world,this was abolished by christ on the cross.The moral law is eternal and is meant for everyone.This why Jesus tought in John 14 to keep his commandments,Roman’s 2:13 states the doers,not the hearers of the law is Justified.These are just a few of the scriptures
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If the laws were all the same there wouldn’t be different names. Add a little common sense and voila!! The question self destructs.
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Many of those laws did not come from Moses but from the later leaders
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For understanding what is applicable to the Christian life and what is not concerning the Levitical Law as given Moses.
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We doing God does
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It’s not actually man separating them. What man has done is just read the Word and interpret.
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Unclear statement framed as an assertion instead of a question. What are you actually trying to ask, or did you have some statement you’re trying to make but failing miserably at?
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Moral, ceremonial and civil…merely describes the types of law…it’s that simple….
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It is not a right but that is the way it is.
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When we can see the Law as three in one and should not be cutting and spliced to fit what we want to believe. we will see in the Law it is all or nothing. James says in the Book of James it one disobey one part of the Law you are guilty of disobeying all of the Law.
Jesus coming to fulfill the law really means complete the Law as the standard of righteous and salvation. Paul says in Galatians 3; the law is a curse and in Romans 3; no one can be justified, made right through obedience to the Law.
We who are born-again are obligated to obey Jesus’ Commandments not the Commandments of Moses who represent the entire law including the keeping of the Sabbath. The New Covenant has its own sett of Laws,
The Law of Grace which includes obedience to Jesus and his first-century Apostles.
There is a reason with the instruction given by the Apostles not one is reminding us to keep the Sabbath or to pay tithes as some Churches practice today. Hebrews 8: through !0 contrast the Old and the New Covenant and states the Old Covenant and its Law is abolished and the New Covenant, the Law of Grace has taken its place.
Grace is free but requires obedience to Jesus, If you love me you will keep, obey my commandments. John 13; to John 17;
Read these references before responding. Understanding this teaching will have gave implications on how one lives their life in a relationship to God through Christ and fellowship with one another.
Hebrews 1:1-6, Jesus is the way the truth and the life, not Moses, not the Law of the Old Covenant.
What was the Old Covenant? | GotQuestions.org
http://www.gotquestions.org/old-covenant.html
Jan 02, 2020, · The Old Covenant was never intended to save us; in fact, “the old written covenant ends in death; but under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life” (2 Corinthians 3:6, NLT). In the Old Covenant, God also established that the way to atone for sin is through the shedding of blood (Hebrews 9:22). -
Acts 15 did it. The church did away with universal ceremonial law & just kept the moral law.
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36 Sacrifice a bull each day as a sin offering to make atonement. Purify the altar by making atonement for it, and anoint it to consecrate it. (Exodus 29:36) clearly the laws directing how to make atonement are of a different order from the laws containing the sins atonement needs to be made for
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The Bible makes clear in Hebrews that the ceremonial law were types and shadows
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Because objective moral duties and values can only be ascertained by the circumstances that brought someone to do what they did. You have Gods Absolute values and then you have Jesus discerning the heart behind those values depending on circumstances. What’s sin for one may not be sin for another
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In agreement with others here, the Law is the Law, in its entirety. There is no biblical justification to divide it up. Paul clarifies this when he says that if you break the least of commands, your guilty of all of it, if your under the Law. This basically means that God’s righteous requirement is 100 percent obedience, not 90, not 98, but 100. The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. The Law was given in order to show that Israel, and in fact no one else, is capable of meeting the requirement that God has to be in right standing with him. Hence, Yeshua came and completely fulfilled and obeyed the Law in every aspect, and after he had done so, the guilty charge imposed by the Law was nailed to the cross, ie, put upon Him. After it’s fulfillment by Yeshua it passed away, and the Law of Christ, through the New Covenant became the requirement. Believe on the name of Yeshua and you will have eternal life. Christ re-instituted the Law in 2 commands, Love God with all your being, love others as yourself. He also elevated the guiding principles of the law by pointing to the intent of it versus the letter. Examples would be, you’ve heard it said, you shall not commit adultery, but i say, that if you look on a woman with lust, you’ve already committed adultery in your heart…you’ve heard it said, you shall not murder, but I say to you, if you hate your brother in your heart, your guilty of murder. The point here is the spirit of the law, and not the letter is what God is concerned with. What the Law could not do, (save us from sin) Christ did. Now our salvation is not reliant on our obedience to the Law, but on our identification with Christ, believing on his name and being imputed with His righteousness as a result of His perfect obedience to the Law while he was under the Law. Then upon complete fulfillment of all feasts and requirements, the temple, and all of its systems were removed by God, via the armies of Rome in AD 70, and the New Jerusalem, which is defined as the bride of Christ, the church, and the new covenant according to Paul in Galatians, also being likened to the Jerusalem that is from above, was fully realized and consummated.
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