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I’ve recently been studying into the topic of morality in atheism; the depths of immorality is justified to no end by its philosophies, perhaps one of the greatest examples (among many) is Joseph Stalin…

Apparently in his early life he went to seminary, but left after being indoctrinated by Marxism and joining Vladimir Lenin’s communist movement, for those that don’t know much about communism; to its core it’s an extremely anti God, atheist philosophy much credited by Karl Marx (the atheist that made the philosophy) to Charles Darwin for inspiring it by the “origin of species” book which is the origin of modern evolution.

Stalin came to hate God so much he banned religion in the USSR, and imprisoned and murdered pastors without trial.

Question 1.
What would the world be like if Joseph Stalin never denounced his faith for an atheist philosophy?
Are you willing to admit the lives of the USSR citizens could have been much different?

My second point, which is most important… Atheists say we can have objective morality without God so long as all people agree on what’s right and what’s wrong for everyone as a civilization…

Question 2.
What if someone like Joseph Stalin comes to power? Under the philosophy of atheism, Joseph is 100% justified in his tyranny..
Who will hold the bar again a man as powerful as him? The majority of the feeble, hungry USSR “peasants” opinions of what’s right and wrong?

Atheism is an extremely dangerous philosophy, and should be treated as one..

Discussion

29 comments

  1. Justin Kaleb Graves says:

    I do think Stalin was instrumental in the Great Purge, with around 1,000,000 deaths. But I do not think it is historically accurate to say that Stalin intentionally starved the Ukrainians or Russians.

  2. Larry Koester says:

    He is a vood example of the course of evolutionary thinking. The evolution of the perfect nan and society. Some proof isn’t he and the so irty communism build. State socialism where the State takes on the role of God and knows what best for everything.

  3. Sarvo Souri Martin says:

    The answer is obvious! He wouldn’t have had he been a true follower of Jesus

  4. Švétläñä Bêllïssîmmã says:

    The Bible says..you shall know them by their fruits !

    So if he was really a Christian, he would never be in power, because a Christian is called to serve and be free from the politics of this world ! And even if he was in power as a Christian, he would have dedicated his country to the Lord and ordained God’s laws in his country..and provided for his people..instead of starving them !

  5. Eddie Jessup says:

    Atheism isn’t a philosophy.

  6. Ron Holmes says:

    Is this a rhetorical question?

  7. Roxy Wade says:

    No Jesus = NO salvation!

  8. Sean Conley says:

    He was a vessel of wrath.

  9. Rufus Peacock says:

    Murderer!

  10. Joseph Dunbar says:

    “If he were a Christian would the outcome be the same?? “
    ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW??! What the heck kind of question is that? Seriously?!! Was Jesus a mass murderer? Do Christians starve their own brothers and sisters? Is that how somebody is interpreting the New Testament Church??
    My Goodness people!
    God has given us a Brain….. it would be wise to use it!

  11. Lukas Dohnal says:

    I grew up in communism (born in Czechoslovakia 1977) and I was an atheist until 2016. I was always quick, like a lightning, to relate inquisitions and crusades and wars to religion, specifically Christianity even though I had particularly no clue what its about. I would never think to relate great tyrants of 20th century (Stalin, Hitler,pol pot etc) to The fakt they were atheists. I believe in God now, for three years already, and I do not want to relate these tyrants to atheism because I don’t want to be like I was before but just the other way around. I condemn them of course but not because they were atheists. I understand now that inquisitions and crusades were not done by Christians, but by those who claimed to be and that is a big difference. Atheism is a lie and the father of lies is behind this “doctrine” the problem is spiritual it is a deception atheist are all deceived by Satan. He deceived the whole world.

  12. Ava Reyes says:

    So I guess we should judge all Christians by the bloody history of the Catholic Church?

  13. Duncan Macpherson says:

    If Stalin had lived a century before he would probably have murdered in the name of Orthodox Christianity.

  14. Dave Van Huffel says:

    What about immortality in Christianity or Christian behaviour? Is it possible? Yes !!!

  15. Mark Fonner says:

    What if a comet the size of Mount Everest hits the earth tonight? None of us will have to worry about it. ?

    These “What-if” scenarios can range from the sublime to the hilariously funny. Stalin by all accounts was insane with power, if not out-right looney. He had a massive ego and for years after his death, there was no talk of him in public because the fear was justified.

    Comparing one of the worst mass murderers that has ever lived to the Christian message is frankly, a bit disturbing. His actions would have never been justified under any regime or religion, save one.

    World history teaches us many things. One of the starkest realities is in the words of Sir John Acton, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.’

    Stalin was living proof of it.

    20,000,000 dead. Look at the number. Under no imagination is the number justified.

  16. Brent Waters says:

    If he was a christian he wouldn’t have done those things… stupid question

  17. Jerry Spencer says:

    “In a few cases in the New Testament, entire Bible passages are omitted from the earliest manuscripts—like Mark 16:9-20, John 7:53-8:11, Acts 8:37, and I John 5:7. These passages are in our Bibles, but were later additions to the text. None of these were written by a prophet or apostle.”

    “From
    Project Bible Truth”

    So things were added to the New Testament and in some cases we know the date that this was done.

    And yet people still trust it.

  18. Bob Bosch says:

    Why are highly religious countries so much worse than less religious countries?

  19. Zach Payne says:

    It’s funny that atheism would believe in objective morality which goes with the majority is not objective but subjective. Objective morality never changes

  20. Amateshe Godfrey says:

    The simple question is with the atheistic world view how do you arrive at an objective moral standard?

  21. Doreen Heintschel says:

    In a biography Stalin according to his daughter as he lay dieing in his bed, sat straight up, shook his fist at the sky (God) and collapsed and died. I always find that so ironic. To be so angry at something or someone that you say doesn’t exist. We know that God’s word tells us in Romans that all men have knowledge of God, so they are without excuse.

  22. Larry Cambalos says:

    All communist countries are the amalek tribe Written in the bible, they are the enemy of the people of god, Joseph stalin, Adolf Hitler, etc. Will surely give an account to all what they have done, just wait for judgement, they will be burn alive in the lake of fire upon judgment, they will scream to death for so much pain, so sad ? ? ? for them

  23. Chrys George says:

    ‘Bitter Harvest’ (2017 film)

    https://youtu.be/3P0saS1peTw.

    Trans-Siberian Orchestra, symphonic metal, ‘Carol of the Bells’ https://youtu.be/sCabI3MdV9g; based on the Ukrainian New Year folk chant “Shchedryk.”

    Middle Eastern despot

    A Georgian Orthodox, and seminarian, background. “A Middle Eastern despot” fits, since Armenia and Georgia are the two Near East Christian countries.

    A. Approved by a younger Joseph Stalin; the Soviet Constitution was small but there is an Article within it, that the USSR embrace atheism.

    B. http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2012/06/on-atheistic-fanaticism/ | Find, in the Page, ‘Bolsheviks Firing upon a Christian Church Procession in Astrakhan;’ egg tempura, on wood; in the guise of monastic men.

    Jurisprudence

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/344/94/ | Though the White Army is defeated at the Urals; Kedroff, here, representing the White Church wins in U.S. Supreme Court, against the puppet Red Church.

  24. Jeremiah Kwan says:

    If he is a christian. He is a fake one. A professed christian. It is written, we will know who is of Christ by how we love one another.

  25. Carl Mason says:

    What if Satan had never fallen ? Pointless questions.

  26. Alimi Nig says:

    jospeh stalin never existed_as an independent entity, the so called independent entity u refer to as stalin , has learnt that now_ when will you?_ God alone exist

  27. Tim Schmidt says:

    After Stalin’s death they dissected his brain. Do you know what they found? A type of Corona virus! That type of virus alters the brain in the first place and then it creates a specific power. Unfortunately other mass killing tyrants where officially not dissected in order to make conclusions incomplete, isn’t that a strange coincidence??

  28. Tim Schmidt says:

    How wonderful our world is organized today. Why might put our brain on the counter of the market in order to pay the bill for all shoppers coming after.?

  29. Mark Marini says:

    There are two sides to this supernatural war- for God or against. God sent His Son yo draw the line in the sand. You either believe and obey Jesus commands or go your own way. One leads to life the rest to death. No matter which path you chose atheism, paganism, etc. they all lead to death. Everyone presented with this truth will be held accountable but God is just so don’t bring up kids or babies or those that never hear the good news. it’s all in the Bible so don’t worry about them but just yourself.