If 8 people got off the Ark, why wouldn’t all mankind would be Jewish? Where did the separation start in the bloodline? Please state with scripture so I can read and study.
Thank you saints.
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All Judeans (from the line of Judah) are descendants of Noah. Not all descendants of Noah are from the line of Judah.
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Israelites come from Abraham, not Noah
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Tower of Babylon
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Jews did not exist until after Jacob
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Everyone spoke one language and worshiped one God until the Tower of Babel.
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Because Jacob became Israel so the sons of Israel ( Jacob ) those are your 12 tribes
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Nice. I could use that in a deductive argument to refute the flood story. A syllogism is possible.
1) if the flood story were true, everybody would have Jewish heritage.
2) not everybody has Jewish heritage
C) therefore, the flood story is not true.
Of course, not every Christian believes in it literally
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Noah and his family were gentiles. The first Israelites were the children of Jacob. Even Abraham and Isaac were gentiles, although they were also Hebrews.
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It started with Abraham. Roughly the Jewish line began about 200 years after the flood when God called Abram out of ur
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Because they weren’t Jewish the first Jew (Hebrew” was Abraham
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The Jewish nation began with the offspring of Abram…who became Abraham…several generations later.
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Abraham’s 3 sons were red black and yellow. There’s race. Language comes from Babel.
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Abraham came after Noah, so…
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Noah had 3 sons and God separated them after they were off the ark and bore sons and daughters. God separated by Noah’s 3 sons and you can read it in Genesis. It was separated even more so at the Tower of Babel. Man always tries to bring everyone together for the good just like today! All the Globalism. It actually is not good. God separated Man for a reason. When men get their heads together it does not turn out for the betterment for mankind but only for the elite to try and crush the aspirations of those below them. It is happening today across the world. We have more freedom in America but as we let them slip away so the elite will rule over us.
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You raise a very good point, you could go all the way back to adam and eve. We all have the same parents we are all related. God singled out one man, abraham, to create a nation that would worship him alone but that doesn’t leave anyone out, he always has his ear open to others
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Tower of Babel
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Abraham was first called a Chaldean, then it became Hebrew, then called Jews after the tribe of Judah. Religion split when Hagar and Ishmael went back to the land of Egypt, they no longer worshipped the way Abraham did. God called Abram out of the land of Ur, where his father was a maker of Idols. Before Abram you were either followers of Elohim (Yahweh) or Pagan. So one would think when Cain was cast away from Adam for killing Able, that Cain made his own belief no longer following what Adam had taught him.
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Genesis 11. Shem to Abram.
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Noah wasn’t Jewish
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Read Genesis. Then read it again To understand.
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Read the geneologies in the Scriptures.
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Noah descended from Adam and Abraham from Noah and Israel (Jacob) from Abraham and Judah (the tribe from whom the Jews get their name) from Israel and David from Judah and Mary and Joseph from David and Jesus from Mary.
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They weren’t jews..
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Probably after Ham got exiled for sleeping with his mom. ?
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The Jews are the descendants of Abraham through Isaac and his son Jacob (later changed to Israel). Noah was before and he would have had descendants other than the descendants of Abraham.
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abraham was the 1st jew & he was way later than noahs family but we are all from 1 of noahs 3 sons (Shem, Ham , Japheth)
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The Tower Of Babel
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The Tower Of Babel
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Being a Jew is not base on blood relation!Its but base on Gods unconditional covenant with Abraham…The covenant at mount sanai is the fulfilment God promised to Abraham that his descendant will possessed modern day Israel…
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We are all definitely related to Noah and then also to Adam.
The Jewish people descended from the line of Shem.
Abraham being the father of them all.
The main dispersal of people groups is recorded in scripture at the tower of Babel.
We are all related to the Jewish line…the same as we are all related to the Spanish,French or Japanese. -
First, before the flood there were already different races as we see that Cain fathered a distinct people whom TubalCain was a leader. There were probably others that may or not have been mentioned in scripture. In Genesis 6 we are told that mankind intermarried the races even to the point that they had relations with the angels to make the Nephlim. We see that this intermarrying caused mankind’s flesh to be corrupted just as deuteronomy 22 states that thou shall not sow your vineyard with diverse seed lest it be corrupted. Jeremiah 49 speaks of Esau and his foreign wives and that Esau’s seed was corrupted. What we see is that Noah was pure in his generations. This refers to heritage, bloodline and ancestry. This is why Noah found favor. God spared Noah’s sons for Noah’s sake and because his sons were the next purest in bloodline, but we do not see that his sons married of the same race.
So after the flood scrioture tells us that Noah and his sons all settled different regions and they all became their own distinct tribes, nations and tongues. This may be because the sons wives were of the other races and so they all introduced their distinct genetic offspring. At Tower of Babel they once again mixed in marriage and took wives of all they chose. They became one mixed multitude of people with one common language. God said it was not good and so He corrected this again by sorting out the genetics of the races and grouped them accordingly into distinct and separate tribes, tongues and nations. There are also examples where God created the races by His power and will, like when Abraham took an Ethiopian, Hagar, as wife and she had a mixed baby, Ishmael. God made Ishmael the father of a new nation of people. The Arab people. Half Hebrew (white) half Ethiopian (black). Also, when Isaac had his twin sons, Jacob and Esau, we see that God says “in your womb are two nations”. God divided the offspring as He knit them in the womb. Esau is stated to be red and hairy(possibly Hindu/indian). -
I literally have whole pages worth of lineages in a notebook somewhere… Very deep subject
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But you’re just going to have to go over the curse Noah spoke after the flood. DM me I can give you resources I just have class soon so I’ll get back with you.
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Because Noah wasn’t a Jew himself.
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Noah wasn’t Jewish.
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No one on the Ark was Jewish because the word Jewish comes from the name Judah and Judah is the son of Jacob.
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Abraham was the first ‘Jew’.
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Wasn’t it Jacob who was the first Jew? His name was changed to Israel.
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But the Hebrews came from the line of Abraham. He was the first one to establish the sacrificial tenets by taking his sacrifice to Melchizedek and giving him a tenth of his flocks as tithe.
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Consider the Tower of Bable, in regards to races.
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Noah was before Israel
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Jews started with Abraham, Genesis 17 but it says in verse 6, “And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee”.
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