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"The removal of these outdated and senseless gender restrictions, in…

4 years ago • January 25, 2023 • by ourCOG

“The removal of these outdated and senseless gender restrictions, in my opinion, makes such obvious good sense that there’s not much more I can say on the subject. Needless to say, I will be voting for this item, even though it comes about 100 years too late!” -CoG Bishop Nick Park

I for one am opposed to the ordained bishop position for women in the CoG.

However you can not read of any opposing views coming from the CoG media. The church is led to believe there is no opposition. Is this a mere cultural and polity issue that has become outdated and senseless?

There are complications to this agenda item that may cause it to fail and how can the church continue on with outdated and senseless gender restrictions. Is the church prepared for a failure of this item?

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25 comments

  1. Charles Page says:
    June 21, 2016 at 12:51 am

    This issue suffers from the lack of “reasoned feedback” of the Church of God media.

    This is an agenda item up for discussion by the general council and passed on to the general assembly for vote.

    Yet the church is seemingly told how to vote rather than be informed about the voting process. Thus three elements are being resisted: the mind of the people, the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and the instruction of scripture.

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  2. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 12:55 am

    I agree it’s the people in power want it so they push it! I think there being threatened by someone.

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  3. Charles Page says:
    June 21, 2016 at 12:58 am

    “if you have a dog in this fight..” is a law they should acknowledge.

    The administrative people need to lead the church not drive the church.

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  4. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 12:59 am

    That is an awesome truth

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  5. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 12:59 am

    I learned that in military

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  6. James T Guyton says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:22 am

    Some of these comments are without any foundation atr patently absurd

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  7. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:26 am

    Ok prove it. Prove me wrong.

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  8. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:27 am

    All anyone who disagrees gets is disrespectful talk see if this changes

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  9. James T Guyton says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:31 am

    An item up for discussion not dictated.

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  10. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:34 am

    Nope it’s been PUSHED for last 4 gc from above.

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  11. Melvin Harter says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:47 am

    I have been told by several Ordained Bishops that if it is passed at the GA that women can be Ordained Bishops, they are resigning from the CoG and turning in their ministerial credentials.

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  12. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:48 am

    62% was against last time why is it still here!!!

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  13. Charles Page says:
    June 21, 2016 at 2:10 am

    the resistance of the old school church is wore down to nearly nothing.

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  14. Link Hudson says:
    June 21, 2016 at 3:05 am

    Does any of this have anything to do with what ‘bishop’ refers to in the Bible? Isn’t a pastor of a local church a ‘bishop’ in the Biblical sense? Why all the hubub over the title and not the substance?

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  15. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 3:07 am

    No has to do with certain women wanting to have their way over the majority wants. They just want to be as the most high

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  16. James T Guyton says:
    June 21, 2016 at 3:26 am

    Lol

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  17. Emily Carlsson-Shoemaker says:
    June 21, 2016 at 3:53 am

    Resign away. What a ridiculous argument. Grown men misusing scripture because women threaten them.

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  18. Charles Page says:
    June 21, 2016 at 4:18 am

    women threatening men to misuse scripture is more like it!!!

    Men are scared of the women!

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  19. Gregory Aslan Chopoorian says:
    June 21, 2016 at 10:52 am

    It has been said that a nation is a group of people united by a common misconception about their racial/ethnic/historic origins….the same could be said about those insisting God has imbued the male gender with the latent mantle of leadership in the church, and calling that “biblical”…it’s “biblical” in that the Bible is being misused in the endeavor, but it’s still a misconception; still a fundamental misunderstanding of why Christ came, lived, died, was raised from the dead, ascended, and gave us all gifts..and it wasn’t for the sake of men and women being ensconced in the patriarchy you envision, Charles! “There is therefore now no male or female in Christ!” We haven’t even begun in any meaningful way to explore what that means, but I cringe at the thought of what awaits those that have thwarted the ministry gifts of God over a person’s genitalia!

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  20. Jackson Vaughn Plant says:
    June 21, 2016 at 11:22 am

    Gregory Aslan Chopoorian I have heard this ad nausium , we did not write the bible but Paul did. Take it up with him. I am tired of the threats from their side about holding women down! “But I cringe at the thought of what awaits those that have thwarted the ministry gifts..” Really!?! The ONLY thing women are restricted from is Senior Church Leadership. They are Pastors,Evangilist, Prophets, praise leaders, teachers! Anything, they Sit on state boards which by the was most men who are not Bishops don’t get to do. In NO WAY AT ALL are women restricted from ministry gifts and it’s a lie and disingenuous to claim otherwise. Why are women wanting what GOD said they should not do? Unless it’s that reason because God said don’t do it? Sounds familiar a little bit. The sanctimonious derision that the so called egalitarian side has for anyone who would DARE disagree is wrong on so many levels. I have read same chapters in the Greek and Hebrew and I know what it says. 62% shot it down and still keeps being brought up again and again! Do you really think that will persuade me to go against what God said? In that case you all have the misconceptions.

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  21. Robert Borders says:
    June 21, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    The entire political systems of denominational hierarchy tends to thwart ministries of both male and female who try to please those over them in man-made structures. I find little biblical support for the way the American Church (including the COG) has evolved. This is a problem with essentially all denominations over time.

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  22. James T Guyton says:
    June 21, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    Charles Page are you a Baptist as stated on your FB profile?

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  23. Wade T. Foster says:
    June 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    Women being Ordained Bishops is not on the agenda for GA 2016. I read through the agenda many times and it is not there. Where are you getting this faulty information.

    There is on the agenda voting for Ordained ministers (used to be called Licensed ministers and definitely not Ordained Bishops) to be part of the General Council at GA.

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  24. David Lewayne Porter says:
    June 21, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    It is not that the men are threatened.

    I just want a lady to explain how they can discount the verses on male headship and bishops yet still hold firm to other scriptures by the same author.

    Seems double minded to me.

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