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Is it an “and/or” thing? Can you receive the mark and still go to heaven and long as your don’t worship the beast?

With all of this stuff going on now with vaccines. I can see mandatory vaccines. And if Gates is doing them I can easily see this as an option for the mark. If a person was forced to get the mark (jail or hospital for example) ..

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  1. Ian Hartley says:

    It must be voluntary.

  2. Stephen Nyamekye says:

    If you receive the mark of the beast you are doing forever

  3. Evangelist Daniel Zakka says:

    Receiving the Mark is also a worshipping of the beast.

  4. Salvation Mawutor Ahonkou says:

    Once you receive the mark of th beast your case is closed. That is the Bible.
    In fact it is the worst form of worshiping thw beast.

  5. Thato Masiu says:

    It is an AND thing. The mark we receive as Christians (John 3:3, 5, Revelation 20:4, 15) is NOT on the dust (Genesis 2:7) BUT in the spirit (John 3:6, Galatians 5:22-23) where it CANNOT be tempered with; Neither Mr Gates or the devil CAN. AND as LONG as we do NOT worship the beast (Matthew 4:10).

  6. Clive Samuels says:

    The mark 666 will take place after the rapture.

  7. Clive Samuels says:

    If you get left behind do not take the mark because your soul will be doomed forever.

  8. David Chase says:

    Mark will be known obey Antichrist renounce Jesus no elect shall do that!

  9. Eve Caroline says:

    A futurist interpretation of Revelation sees many Christians attempting to determine the mark of the beast. However a futuristic interpretation of Revelations requires breaking one of the first rules of literary interpretation; understand the genre. Revelation is a letter- and letters served the purpose of addressing a current issue. Revelation was written to the early church to encourage them as they faced terrible persecution. Prophesies such as the mark of the beast have been largely fulfilled during the early church and up to, and beyond, the destruction of the temple.

    This type of interpretations of Revelation are rife in the Pentecostal traditions where undertones of conspiracy theories seem to flourish. Having grown up in Pentecostalism from the 80’s I’ve seen the prophecies of Revelation be interpreted to each era. In the 80’s Henry Kissinger was the Antichrist, the one world religion was the Catholics and the one world monetary system a cashless Society. Today, I hear that the one world religion is Islam and so forth. It only makes Christians look stupid and ignorant when they hold these views. If you subscribe to a futurist interpretation then make sure you know the other four possible ways of interpreting Revelation and be prepared to understand the many literary criticisms such a form, redaction, source etc, which have been applied, and argue accordingly.

  10. Jared Hamilton says:

    To me, The mark is dependent upon worship of the beast.

  11. Bill Sewell says:

    You can’t be serious, a vaccine has nothing to do with worship

  12. Barry Beutell says:

    Getting the vaccine is not the mark unless it us somehow tied into people’s ability to work, buy, sell. If it’s voluntary, like a flu shot, then no way.
    In China the government is already tracking people using cell phones. People get points, or lose them, depending on how compliant they are. That’s getting into mark of the beast territory.

  13. Kathy DeVoss says:

    We, at the moment of salvation, are sealed by the Holy Spirit. I don’t plan on being here when the mark if the beast happens

  14. Brent Waters says:

    Sounds like you have to do both according to this translation. Interesting I’m gonna look into this

  15. Mike Colburn says:

    The significance of the mark being in the forehead or on the hand is symbolic. We understand that the other things being spoken about are symbols. The devil, groups of people, nations, etc. Therefore it would be a good interpretation to realize that the forehead and hands are symbolic as well.

    The forehead relates to the thoughts and mind… And the hand relates to the things we do. I don’t believe there are going to be physical marks but rather symbolic marks that show those that have them worship the devil. By how they think and what they think about. As far as the hands… It’s what they do and who they do it for… Everything boils down to worship.

  16. Brent Waters says:

    so what i get from this is they go hand and hand that if you receive the mark you will be forced to worship the beast if you refuse you will be hunted like the jews who come to christ. Who resist the beast

  17. David Stacks says:

    You can not take sway what the scriptures says. If you receive that mark its pretty clear what comes next.

  18. Thomas Dobbins says:

    Several years ago in a live Q&A session, someone asked John MacArthur if taking the mark of the Beast during the Great Tribulation would be an unpardonable sin. His answer, in short, was no. Though there is a stern warning against taking the mark of the Beast in Revelation 14, the sin is not categorically said to be unpardonable. (That would contradict Matthew 12:31.) The point of the severe language in Revelation 14 is to make clear what an utterly reprehensible sin it will be to swear an oath of willful loyalty to Antichrist.

    Someone posted John MacArthur’s reply to that question on YouTube with a melodramatic one-word title in all caps: “OUTRAGE.” Gossip-mongers on the Internet got hold of it, apparently, and within days someone wrote to our ministry saying, “I saw pastor John on a YouTube video saying the way to be saved in the Tribulation is to take the mark of the Beast.”

    Well—no.

    If someone listens to Pastor MacArthur’s reply and imagines he was saying it’s no great sin to receive the mark of the Beast, listen again; that grossly twists what he actually said. The question is not (as one writer suggests) “How Far Can You Go and Still Be Able to Repent?” The point John MacArthur was making is about the extremes to which God’s grace will reach in order to seek and save a sinner.

    Yes, Revelation 14:9–11 says, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Clearly, receiving the mark is a sin that will send those who commit it to hell.

    But the Bible also says, “Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9–10). In short, all sin carries the threat of eternal doom, and some particularly heinous sins have a built-in hardening effect that makes them particularly dangerous. Scripture occasionally singles out common sins that have this peculiarly soul-destroying effect.

    On the other hand, only one very specific sin is ever said to be unforgivable. Any sin that is repented of is forgivable. Immediately after declaring all fornicators, drunkards, and swindlers unfit for heaven, the apostle writes, “Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11). After saying, “Whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven,” Jesus famously forgave Peter, who denied Him before men

  19. Thomas Dobbins says:

    Jesus Himself said, “Any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven ” (Matthew 12:31, emphasis added). The one unpardonable sin was the sin of those who had seen His miracles with their own eyes; they knew He was the true Messiah; they were part of the generation to whom He was personally sent. And yet they attributed His powers to Satan. That was unforgivable because it was such a hard-hearted, willful expression of utter rejection from fully enlightened hearts, who punctuated their rejection with an extreme blasphemy. Those Pharisees had stood in the presence of the living embodiment of all truth; they heard His words and saw His works. All the mysteries of Christ had been unveiled before their very eyes. And yet they spurned Him. There was nothing else that could be shown to them to enlighten them further. They were not deceived; they knew full well what they were doing. That’s why their sin was unpardonable (cf. 1 Timothy 1:13).

    Revelation 19:20 indicates that multitudes will take the mark of the Beast because they are deceived. Scripture does not say that they are thereby automatically hardened forever against repentance. That is not the point of the strong warnings.

    This whole issue suddenly became a matter of intense controversy when it was mentioned on a provocative radio program. It’s certainly not worth all the ink that has been wasted and all the bandwidth that has been consumed by angry people demanding explanations and retractions. This much should certainly be clear from the biblical text (and I think would be affirmed by all sides): Taking the mark of the Beast is high treason against Christ and will be judged by God accordingly. Meanwhile, the Lord is “good, and ready to forgive, and abundant in lovingkindness to all who call upon [Him]” (Psalm 86:5).

  20. Nelvin Mortega says:

    Just focus on the Bible, we are not already in the 7years tribulations, we are in the church age BEFORE the 7yrs tribulation.

  21. Joseph William Luna says:

    The “mark of the beast” is at best, FAKE NEWS. It won’t happen because the book of Revelation was not written with the 21st century in mind. It was written to 7 churches of Asia Minor with the intention to prepare them for what was about to happen to harlot Israel.

    The whole book of Revelation is an example of what happens when a chosen nation turns against her own Messiah, kills Him in the most horrific way, and goes on to persecute the Lamb’s little lambs to death.

    Mat. 22:1-14, 23:34-39, LK 14:16-24, 1Thes. 2:14-16 are just a few scriptures that point to the judgment of a wife turned harlot (have you ever read the book of Hosea?) and a bitter persecutor of God’s people. Find her in Rev. 17.

    The mark of the beast was a symbolical way to point out that anyone who compromised himself in order to do business with Jerusalem was marked as someone who would find himself inside the Roman siege in the war of the Jews A.D. 66-70 and probably die of starvation. Someone read Mat. 24 within this context and let God open your eyes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)

  22. Kevin Richards says:

    Maybe the mark on your hand and forehead is what you think and what you do?

  23. Simon Henry says:

    I think I read yesterday that John MacArthur once said it was okay to recieve the mark of the beast, and then later apologised for saying that. I forget the source (probably someone posted it in one of these kinds of FB groups).

  24. Simon Henry says:

    I doubt that it’s the actual mark of the beast but I still find the 666 on barcodes to be really fascinating. Some people say it’s not actually a 666, it just looks exactly like one (except for some white space), the way I see it that’s like me writing “6 6 6” and saying it’s not actually meant to be 666, it’s just curved lines with circles that look like sixes, which is totally a coincidence apparently.

  25. Damon Slachter says:

    Gates is just a bored rich man. He wants his fingers in a bunch of stuff to leave marks on the world before he dies. He has had hundreds of thousands of employees underneath him working on everything from video games to Microsoft Bob… just because he’s in the medical field too doesn’t mean anything. He’s a business man. Bunch of conspiracy theorists. Start looking at Zuckerberg instead.

  26. Kathy DeVoss says:

    Revelation 1:20 interprets Revelation 1:13. Revelation 13:16 “———to be given a mark on their right hand or forehead” Revelation 13:17 says the mark is the name of the beast or the number if his name. Pretty specific

  27. Harold Goldman says:

    It means who you going to follow it’s not a tatoo

  28. Stephen Chubah says:

    Do we even think the implementation of the chip will begin while the church is here on earth or after the is being raptured.

  29. PDel Cotnab says:

    mark is a proof of ownership in the bible. vaccine is not a mark. and imprinsonment and death are persecutions of the faithful

  30. Harold Goldman says:

    Wow chips Blackhawk helicopters tattoos etc the world of dispensationalism

  31. Donald Peacock says:

    If you receive the mark of the beast you will not go to heaven! The reason being once they received the mark they never repented!

  32. Gregory Kayko says:

    Christian’s cant get the mark of the beast. This verse is very misunderstood. I cant explain it but maybe somone with more in depth knowledge of the end times can expand on this.

  33. Darin Martin says:

    All I know is, #billgates said he’s going to use his #dirtyvaccines among other sick ideas to kill many, but I’ll let Billy boy tell the deniers himself.

    Bill Gates – Population Reduction @ TED 2010

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LmzeYYWntxw

  34. Darin Martin says:

    Then there are thing like this.

    Who Is Marina Abramovic and the Inconvenient Truth About Bill Gates | IF YOU ONLY KNEW

    https://youtu.be/1roOtZ7eIUg

  35. Darin Martin says:

    That and he’s on the flight logs to epstein paedo Island

  36. Thomas Dobbins says:

    What about this one

  37. Robert Coffee says:

    Mark of beast and worshiping the beast go hand in hand. So no going to heaven if you have or do either

  38. Johnathon Morris says:

    I don’t think so.

  39. Chrispine Lupupa Junior says:

    You can’t have both . its either you have the mark of the beast or the mark of Christ. It won’t be forced but people will beg for it because of the implication if you don’t have it. Once you have the mark of the beast , you cant go to heaven because its a seal.

    Kindly go to YouTube and search for ‘ “Mark of the Beast vs Mark of Christ with Urbert Angel’. You will get great insight and your question you will be fully answered. I beg you to listen to that video.

  40. Chrispine Lupupa Junior says:
  41. Will Rosie says:

    People have to willingly accept the mark in the full knowledge that it is the mark, and that by doing so they are worshipping the beast.
    A vaccine is not the mark, a chip is not the mark and dna tagging is not the mark unless the acceptance of it comes with some kind of public declaration of loyalty to the beast.

  42. James C Prinkey III says:

    Its assumed people will know it’s the mark of the beast. But the Bible doesn’t say that.
    It says he will cause all men etc. to receive a mark.
    That word “cause” can mean coerced, tricked, or forced.
    Think logically, if people know it’s the mark of the beast, they won’t take it willingly.
    Even atheists will recall their childhood indoctrination, and reject it.
    Jesus said there will be a great falling away from the faith, not a revival.
    Millions of people will receive the mark, but not worship the beast, and these people will likely be martyred.

  43. Nick Dufour says:

    We as believers are not appointed unto wrath. We will be raptured before the tribulation peroid Noah was saved before Gods wrath. Lot was saved before wrath as we will also

  44. David Holmes says:

    NOOOO –> Revelation 20 !!!

  45. Kathy DeVoss says:

    Accepting the mark and worshipping the beast are a do e deal. No going back. Go to the word

  46. Josie Tiscareno says:

    Following

  47. Josie Tiscareno says:

    I feel like it’s the cell phone.
    We use it for buying etc

    We carry it up to our face near forehead to look at the screen.

    The bitten apple ? on the iPhone ? has me thinking ? about eve