Bible says do not murder
But When Christian Military Killed another military, how can we Justify this?
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Self defense
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Like you said it says do not murder. It doesn’t say do not kill. Even Jesus called his disciples to Cary swords with them to protect themselves.
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Well read your Bible even God called for war against evil people, He had Joshua over run and fight the people in the promised land to get them out of the land, God also told King Saul in 1 Samuel 15 to go and destroy the Amalskites,
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The term “Christian military” is unbiblical
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Killing and murder aren’t the same
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Can not be justified.
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God told different people many times throughout the Bible to go into a city and kill everyone man woman, child and animals because they were wicked. Then He killed everyone on the planet except for Noah and his crew. Then He destroyed the whole cities of Sodom and Gomorrah… So I guess the commandment should have said, “thou shalt not kill unless they’re wicked” ?
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Murder vs war.
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There are situations where killing is justified. From the death penalty to self-defense—war is somewhere in between those two. Don’t forget that murder means the taking of the innocent life of an image bearer of God.
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Augustine wrote about this 1,600 years ago in his book, Contra Faustum Manichaeum. There is no need to reinvent the wheel.
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I respect people who are consciencious objectors..and all who choose to defend a cause via possible death. No greater love hath any man than to lay down his life for another
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You need to look up the definition of murder
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death in war is not murder. Neither is killing in self defense, or in defense of another’s life, or execution of criminals. Murder is the unjust killing of another. And it is always motivated by either power, sex, or money.
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Apparently you justify it by calling it war and not murder…
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You have confused nation-state military with the Army of the Lord. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal. This image is blasphemous and does not express the “full armor of God” in any respect.
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as a follower of Christ i prefer not to hold a gun… for it is impossible to love an enemy, and killed them.
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War is of this world. Our focus should not be.
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“He who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword.” – Jesus; that being said …. in the U.S.A., currently, it is an all volunteer military. What is the status of a conscientious objector today? And are there other ways by which to serve in which one does not have to carry a weapon?
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Keep in mind that the first Gentile convert to Christianity was not only an active member of the Roman Army, he was a Centurion! We read in Acts 10:22: “Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews…”
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Daniel kondha Because of your definition of murder. Self defense, defense of ones country or home is not murder.
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Kill vs Murder. Military is killing not murdering.
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Murder is different from killing. The bible says thou shall not murder but does not say thou shall not kill
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We can’t
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There is plenty of evil in war, but there can be righteousness also. Few people think that it was evil to defeat Hitler and set the death camps free. Murder is murder, and war is war. The words have meaning.
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There had never been a ” Christian Military” ever. You might mean something else, but works have meanings, and there, by definition, has never been a Christian Military. So let’s start with that and go from there…..
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killing in war, to defend your nation & way of life, is NOT murder. Next question?
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killing and murder are different.
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Believe Bible recognizes killing in war is different.
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God also kills, but He doesn’t murder. we can see God killed them animals in the garden of eden to clothe adam and eve. Killing is a righteous way of ending a life, murder isnt. God is justified in His act of killing, it doesn’t mean God is sinning. thank you next
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If killing is an option to prevent further killing, would you kill?
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Apostle Paul compared Christian’s to soldiers. Jesus the night he was betrayed and taken by the Roman’s and Jewish Leaders, told his disciples to take swords and they had two, God faught alongside Israel for their promised Land. While the Nations in Biblical times enslaved and conquered their own people and weaker nations arround them, Israel being one of them, God made Israel a more humane Nation towards the foreigner and slaves were treated as adopted children. The Nations that God allowed to die received fair retribution for their sin after God had given many opportunities to repent. These national engaged in practices that were unjust and harmful. God is a fair Just God and He has the Autnority to apply justice.
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Jesus also talked about a king preparing for war. He said the king would count his resources before going into battle, so that if he didn’t think he could win, he could negotiate a treaty.
Notice he didn’t say, the king should not even consider going to battle.
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Romans 13:1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
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War is something very different than just murder. Defending a country and group of people is not immoral, we are to protect and defend those who cannot defend themselves. Jesus called the apostles to sell their cloaks and buy a sword in they didn’t have one….2 Cor 10:3-5. …”we do not wage was the same way the world does….” Although, I love this verse I do not believe it prevents Christians from defending a nation. We must defend against evil and someone’s that happens with a sword.
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Same as normal laws. When you fight in a war for your country, do you get thrown in jail after for shooting enemy soldiers ?
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In war only defending and affending not the matter of murder.
Many times in the Bible God himself commanded Israel to kill their enemies and they have done it.
It doesn’t mean that they committed murder but it is a self protection and protection of the country.
More over this is Army ethics
If Army is not attacking and killing the enemies then enemies will kill the army and take country under their control and make people as slaves. That is the reason to not put country into trouble and to save country from enemies army must kill the enemies -
Is he a real Christian? I mean following Jesus’ teaching???
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When military kill other military, it not called murder, it’s called war. War and execution are allowed under the Old and New Testament
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Ultra evangelicals say if you have ever really really hated someone. You have killed them in your heart. That’s War people die.
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It’s not murder, it’s defending your country from foreign attacks. Or home for that matter.
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Murder and killing are different things
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In the case of going to war, we do so to perseve life.
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Ecclesiastes 3
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Did Jesus rebuke the Roman soldiers?
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Military engagements are not murder. It’s kill or.be killed. Different thing altogether.
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If someone is trying to murder your child and you prevent it by killing him you did not murder.
One was righteous.
One was not.
God permits and prescribes killing as a form of serving justice.
Never does he condone murder. -
Poster who are sitting. Run like hell. Really. Find new teachers. ..
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War is not murder
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Definition of murder: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
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I am not fluent in English. But in hebrew, the verb used here is in hipalel. The translation in English is not equivalent. It’s needed to translate by the volonty to premeditate to kill someone with bad hart.
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When Jesus second coming he is going to do a lot of killing
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God gave the government the sword.
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Can someone give me right Answer
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I’m amazed with this racism issue but they legalized abortion? Abortion is legalized murder.
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not all killings are murder
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Killing is differrent from attrocities carried out with an ill motive.
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Good afternoon! This is a good question – the definition of murder is an unlawful taking of a life. There are reasons for even a Christian in the military to take a human life – although the Christian ethic is more than “I was ordered to do so”. If you have more questions – and I am sure you will as this is certainly a difficult question to answer on Facebook – then please direct message me and we can talk. Blessings –
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Remember God ask the Israelites not to kill but he ask them to kill people to take their land.
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Murder is defined as having the intent of hatred towards someone upon the act. That is why Jesus said that whoever has anger towards another can immediately pass as murder – it’s just not realized yet. The diffrence with soldier killing is it’s not an act out of hatred but of duty for the country which God has ordained for you to protect.
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Look at all the wars in the Old Testament and God did help his people win.
Melanie Benfield Davis
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